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We are also bombarded that this is what is considered "attractive."

Again, I'm sure there are plenty of double blind studies from cultures across the planet in male physiques and I'm sure their will be high probability common denominators among them.

But this isn't true of every aspect of society. I point to baby faced korean boy band members as a counter rebuttal.

Tbf, k-pop models are still pretty ripped and a lot of them have six packs, still indicators of high T and they tend to have good jaw structure. Also, Korean guys are pretty dang tall for Asian standards. Good looking Korean guys still largely fall within most of the stereotypes of traditionally masculine men, they just don't look like lumberjacks due to not being able to grow much facial hair, but large scale studies have shown minimal facial hair is largely the preference for women worldwide anyways, and it's more genetic than "health and virility" based.

This one is blatantly untrue. Studies show most of us want a partner that is as educated and successful as we are. Not more so.

BS. Again, what's your metric? You know for a vast majority of marriages where a partner earns more, it is far more common for the man to earn more than the woman, right? So what exactly is your metric for "not more so"?

Fact: Significantly more women (upwards of 30% or higher) date men who make more money than them than vice-versa. How the hell is it not "not more so" when the stats show it very clearly is?

You're obviously projecting and ignoring data here.

This has nothing to do with being provided for but instead has to do with how we used to have it back in the 40's-70's.

Again, narrowly looking at Western standards as a pathetic attempt to try to sweep it under the rug as societally induced preferences when these preferences become significantly more pronounced when we start to look outside of America.

Let's push this back to commonalities: Do you think of a man being successful has a larger impact on his dating life than it would a good woman? We both the answer to this, I just want to see how honest you are.

If you expect most modern woman to be reliant on you, cook and clean for you, pop out babies/stay at home.. you are looking at a dwindling population.

I'm not part of the "women belong in the kitchen" crowd, but that's condescending to young women and implying that's all they could bring to the table.