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TopicBOST 6 Rules & Discussion Topic (BOST) [BOST] {BOST} *BOST* %%BEST OST%%
azuarc
09/28/22 10:55:33 PM
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1) Thank you for hosting. If you need any help, please ask.

2) I'm not in favor of the split tiering, but I don't know if my opinion carries a lot of weight because I personally prefer everyone fixing their tracks to the same order. My ideal version of how this would go is that everyone nominates strongest first, weakest last, but that after the nominations are locked, ALL games would play (for example) song #4 in round 1. This way there aren't any blatant mismatches, but nobody's going to purposefully try to game the system because they might very well just screw themselves. How you determine the "true order" is up to you. I like this better than pure random, but I think true random is better than partial random.

3. Album-only songs are fine as long as that's the understood rule. As someone who has hosted both VGM contests, eligibility questions and people trying to tweak stuff just for the sake of tweaking them is always a pain, so anything you can lay out in concrete terms beforehand is obviously better. But NFUN in 2022 is going to be a lot better at evaluating these things than azuarc in 2011 or whatever year BOST1 was.

4. SaoriKobayashi posted...
You still can't nominate BOST champion soundtracks, but if you nominate a game that's been in, try to make most of your tracks unique. At least aim for the songs that weren't used in BOST 5. Probably won't make this a concrete rule, but hey! If it really is a contender for the best soundtrack, it should have a good bench of backups.

Did you typo this, or did you mean to say that any game in the last contest should try to come up with a completely unique set of tracks? Guess we won't be nominating VVVVVV, then. (I know you're not framing this as a hard rule, but I still want to try to obey the spirit of the contest.)

5. One thing that I think needs to be recodified is how tiebreakers are selected at the end of the nomination period. When I created BOST, I invented a really stupid rule just so it wouldn't be randomized, and I didn't even remember that rule existed when Deo enforced it for 5, where it bit me in the ass. FIFO is not a good policy. If anything, LIFO is probably better, but there's got to be a better system...even if that means having a brief run-off period or something like that.

6. NFUN posted...
to clarify, I like how we do tiebreakers but i'm not enamored to the point where i'm opposed allowing alternate matches and such to break ties instead. it's more that i'm not inclined to bend the rules because a game doesn't have enough songs, since that makes calling it a contender for "best ost" kinda silly. if we got rid of the alt song then fine ig

In a perfect world, we'd use more than seven songs. The overwhelming majority of games that should be in the discussion should be able to field at least 10. If not 10 good songs, then at least 10 songs total. Otherwise, go Monty on the Run!

Anyway, there's definitely some weird stuff that happens with use of the alternate. It gets played for first tiebreakers, which was the primary use, but then because loser's brackets inherently have more rounds than winner's brackets, it pulled double duty in the later parts of the LB. You may want to look at how the late rounds of the LB could play out, because there's room at that stage of the bracket for wanting multiple alternates. I know I pulled some weird bullshit for how to pick songs in those matches, like whichever song had the most decisive win earlier in the contest, or randomly making it a 3v3, etc.

There were also people who, as greater proponents of the pure random setlist than I, wanted the tracklist to be a random selection out of 8-10 songs. There's an argument for this as well as an extension of what I just mentioned. I'm vomiting all of this up in one bullet point because it basically runs directly at odds to Haste's request for the 6-song soundtrack.

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Other than that, as long as I can infer that there is not a total redesign of the contest, I can begin preparing nominations and telling folks what to expect. I had held off until now for fear there might be some major overhaul -- which I would be totally okay with, by the way.


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