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| Topic | did the soviets only defeat germany because of stalin's refusal to surrender? |
| andel 09/30/22 4:56:22 PM #29: | Big_Nabendu posted... I believe the main reason why USSR defeated Germany, was because of USA contributions. the united states helping the soviets was hugely impactful but it wasn't the main reason the nazis lost in russia. the main reason the nazis lost was mounting an invasion they never had a real shot of succeeding with in the first place. the ussr was far too vast and the germans had too few resources to ever have any real chance of success. they united the soviet people in a way no leader ever could through the brutality of the nazi tactics and the fact that every soviet citizen was facing annihilation. the most impressive thing the soviets pulled off was moving entire factories east in a moments notice. the nazis were never able to curb soviet production which ramped up exponentially while nazi production continued to fall throughout the war. ElatedVenusaur posted... Yeah, the first paragraph is an often overlooked aspect of the Nazi invasion: there was, initially, a lot of good will towards Nazi Germany, especially in areas that had suffered terribly due to Stalin's policies, such as Ukraine, but the Nazis couldn't help but, well....be Nazis and genocide their sympathizers at least as hard as Stalin had. A more sensible force would have harnessed anti-Soviet sentiment in Ukraine and the Baltic to supplement the Wehrmacht (or at least secure vital supply lines), but, well, again...fascists simply aren't capable of being sensible in most instances. yeah, the ideological purity the lunatic german high command showed really screwed them in many ways. they could have taken large swaths of soviet territory if they had truly collaborated with some of the people in the western ussr. if they had taken territory in the initial surge and sued for peace without seeking the destruction of the entire soviet state they could have momentarily ended the war in the east. of course that would never have worked for them long term and didn't solve their primary problem of having no oil and not enough munitions and other supplies, but it could have prolonged their war effort somewhat and prevented the immediate collapse that was coming. the nazis were always doomed to fail in reality. they were never taking britain as they didn't have an adequate navy and they were never taking the ussr because they didn't have the manpower or resources. the only way hitler could have truly become the master of europe is if the european allies all surrendered quickly. of course that will never happen when you have nothing to gain and everything to lose by surrendering. they could never win in the east when the people there were all being murdered as soon as they claimed the territory. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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