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Topic	K-Pop summer topic part 2
YamaChan 11/18/22 5:29:34 PM #175:	Ruddager posted... Its a weird comparison because BP only released 2, if they had released more songs with more MV's they would've also charted them Huh? From the moment Min Heejin went over to HYBE in 2019 kpop fans/the kpop world have been hotly anticipating and hyping up her upcoming girl group. The group had a huge fandom for years before anyone knew even a single detail about them because of her involvement. The woman was responsible for some of the most beloved concepts/comebacks in girl group history Idle, IVE, and Lim Young Woong have all released songs were objectively more popular I'm not here to argue, so you can disagree if you like. My opinion isn't going to change, but a few things. How is comparing them to BlackPink weird? If we're talking about all-time girl group debuts, BlackPink will obviously be in the conversation. It's no fault of NewJeans that BlackPink didn't release more music. That's not exactly unusual for them. Plus it wasn't just the number of songs. Literally no girl group has debuted and performed on the charts like NewJeans did with Attention, Hype Boy and Cookie all at the same time. Ruddager posted... Huh? From the moment Min Heejin went over to HYBE in 2019 kpop fans/the kpop world have been hotly anticipating and hyping up her upcoming girl group. The group had a huge fandom for years before anyone knew even a single detail about them because of her involvement. The woman was responsible for some of the most beloved concepts/comebacks in girl group history This is hyperbolic. Yes, people anticipated the group she would debut, but to say a nonexistent group has a huge fandom is a bit much. Plus let's not act like there was anything typical about their debut. There was literally zero promo or hype. They just dropped their album and became superstars over night. Their album drop was so sudden that people (idiots) thought they were just being used to draw attention away from the whole Kim Garam (former Le Sserafim member) scandal. Ruddager posted... Idle, IVE, and Lim Young Woong have all released songs were objectively more popular That is extremely debatable, and it's not one I feel like having tonight. I think Hype Boy will have more longevity than any of those songs. It peaked at #2 (just behind Attention) and is now experiencing a second life, rising above Attention on the charts, and is currently a top 4 song again, even surging past After Like by IVE. Besides, you can't just look at charts for Hype Boy. Its impact and popularity in Korea is absolutely massive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhzIFsNu0pA You can't escape its popularity even in the Korean military https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN-DcynE4bw I don't think there is a point in downplaying what this baby group has accomplished in less than half a year. Nitpick the specifics all you want, but the accomplishment itself is unprecedented. --- "Key which hides the powers of darkness... Show your true power before me. Under the contract, Sakura commands you. Release!!" - Sakura Kinomoto <cite>YamaChan posted [p:969525373] in K-Pop summ... [t:80107225]...</cite> <quote>Ruddager posted... </cite><quote>Its a weird comparison because BP only released 2, if they had released more songs with more MV's they would've also charted themHuh? From the moment Min Heejin went over to HYBE in 2019 kpop fans/the kpop world have been hotly anticipating and hyping up her upcoming girl group. The group had a huge fandom for years before anyone knew even a single detail about them because of her involvement. The woman was responsible for some of the most beloved concepts/comebacks in girl group historyIdle, IVE, and Lim Young Woong have all released songs were objectively more popular</quote>I'm not here to argue, so you can disagree if you like. My opinion isn't going to change, but a few things.How is comparing them to BlackPink weird? If we're talking about all-time girl group debuts, BlackPink will obviously be in the conversation.It's no fault of NewJeans that BlackPink didn't release more music. That's not exactly unusual for them.Plus it wasn't just the number of songs. Literally no girl group has debuted and performed on the charts like NewJeans did with Attention, Hype Boy and Cookie all at the same time.Ruddager posted... </cite><quote>Huh? From the moment Min Heejin went over to HYBE in 2019 kpop fans/the kpop world have been hotly anticipating and hyping up her upcoming girl group. The group had a huge fandom for years before anyone knew even a single detail about them because of her involvement. The woman was responsible for some of the most beloved concepts/comebacks in girl group history</quote>This is hyperbolic. Yes, people anticipated the group she would debut, but to say a nonexistent group has a huge fandom is a bit much.Plus let's not act like there was anything typical about their debut. There was literally zero promo or hype. They just dropped their album and became superstars over night.Their album drop was so sudden that people (idiots) thought they were just being used to draw attention away from the whole Kim Garam (former Le Sserafim member) scandal.Ruddager posted... </cite><quote>Idle, IVE, and Lim Young Woong have all released songs were objectively more popular</quote>That is extremely debatable, and it's not one I feel like having tonight.I think Hype Boy will have more longevity than any of those songs.It peaked at #2 (just behind Attention) and is now experiencing a second life, rising above Attention on the charts, and is currently a top 4 song again, even surging past After Like by IVE.Besides, you can't just look at charts for Hype Boy. Its impact and popularity in Korea is absolutely massive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhzIFsNu0pAYou can't escape its popularity even in the Korean militaryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN-DcynE4bwI don't think there is a point in downplaying what this baby group has accomplished in less than half a year. Nitpick the specifics all you want, but the accomplishment itself is unprecedented. --- "Key which hides the powers of darkness... Show your true power before me. Under the contract, Sakura commands you. Release!!" - Sakura Kinomoto</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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