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Zikten posted...

The thing about Babbit is that maybe the shooting would be more questionable if it had just been her by herself trying to get in

But it wasn't. There was a huge rioting crowd behind her. They were telling the entire riot to stay back. She led the charge so she got shot. Reports says that as soon as she was shot, everyone back off because it just became real

That crowd was made up of a bunch of entitled people who never actually believed their actions would carry real consequences. In shooting Babbitt, the guards finally got the crowd to stop advancing

Im going to dispute this. Was this crowd of rioters in the wrong? Yes, clearly. But the truth is, the crowd in that room wasnt really advancing or particularly violent. Ashley clearly was. But the others were standing around with their phones out like they were on a tour. You can tell they werent considered much of a threat because the cops are walking in between them and the door and freely walking up and down the stairs to the side. In fact, Ashley only pushes in when the cops leave the door and walk down the stairs. If one of those cops had just walked over and pulled her down or done anything besides walk away, then no one would have died.

You cant fall into the well she had it coming fallacy. Thats not how the law works and its not how we legally determine if something is justified. Ive said it before, the police utterly failed in that room and somebody died because of it.