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Zanglerfish posted...

Said the person thats literally defended genocidal fascists repeatedly.

Feel free to troll somebody else with your nonsensical claims sometime. This is getting monotonous and the amount of goal-post moving you'd have to do to come close to those conclusions is staggering.

agesboy posted...

free speech doesn't mean say literally anything without legal repercussion

treasonous, hateful, inciting violence, defamation, fraud, CP, etc are all exceptions

What you've described isn't free speech or, for the most part, exemptions from it. If you're restricted from criticizing your government (which you define as "treason"), that's not free speech -- those are the kinds of policies held in countries like Iran.

"Defamation" has no "legal repercussion" although there can be a civil suit whether or not what you said is actually true or not. And given that defamation lawsuits are frequently used as a tactic by governments, corporations, and powerful individuals to silence whistleblowers, that's very anti-free speech rather than an example of an exception to free speech. And, on a pragmatic level, ANYTHING somebody says is open to a retaliation, legal or not.

Likewise, the claims of "hateful rhetoric" are anti-free speech, not an exemption to it. The fact that a government passes a law against something doesn't magically create an exemption, especially when many of these governments have long histories of fascist conduct.

And a lot of incitements to violence are protected (which is why you'll hear the rhetoric used pretty frequently), although death threats are not (except on Gamefaqs, apparently, where I've gotten in trouble for complaining about receiving death threats)

And fraud goes a lot deeper than speech. The kind of stuff that would land somebody in jail has little to do with the speech portion.

IqarP15 posted...

Being right or wrong is a matter of perspective. Earl Nightingale says I can be as wrong as I want to. Speaking the truth should not warrant a moderation on this site... Doing so just shows the amount of immaturity people have on this site or others.

There are few things as dangerous as the truth, which is why governments, the powers-that-be, and major corporations try to stifle it... and apparently that practice is widely supported, as we've seen in this topic.