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TopicWhy do people not like Terminator 3?
Norman_Smiley
04/13/23 2:41:05 PM
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1) No James Cameron. I don't know film making well enough to understand why he is so much better than the typical director, but dude has Midas Touch. Either Avatar 1 or True Lies are his worst movie since T1, and True Lies is awesome and Avatar made a bajillion dollars.

2) Sarah Connor. Linda Hamilton, to me, was always the star of T1 and T2. Arnie may have been on the cover, but Sarah is who moved the story. They just kill her off. I get if she didn't want to be in the movie, but put her in prison again. Have a story where she was able to get John free because of her sacrifice. That we she can be brought back without fucking with timelines.

3) Timelines. The more moves in the series, the more they fuck with timelines. The decisions, such as killing Sarah, just screws with more stuff in the future installments. T1, seems like we have 2 timelines. Original timeline where JC is the hope of humanity and no terminator tried to kill his mom/him as a kid, new / current timeline where a terminator was sent back to kill SC. T2 can easily be a continuation of T1, and still have just 2 timelines. T3 if it ended there could maybe be fine, but then we get sarah connor chronicles, savlation, all that shit, and it really starts confusing things. How many timelines are they up to now in the franchise?

4) John Connor. This is a tough for to explain what I really feel on this. JC in T2 was annoying, whiny, hated his voice, seemed rather unrealistic... but I somehow bought it? Like your mom tells you that you are future Jesus and robots will kill everyone and she goes to the mental hospital and you are bouncing around families... I get how a kid like that could exist. Then comes T3. At this point JC KNOWS his mom was right. He is future Jesus, he is the savior of man kind, robots will continue to try to kill him. And we get Nick Stahl. If there was no T2 events, I could get his character. I could get him being the reluctant hero at points. But you know that SC was drilling him like a fucking commando the entire time she was alive. I've seen people with impossible expectations put on them. Either they completely break or they keep trying and struggling to live up to those expectations. T3 JC feels like a character with a bad upbringing but nothing really special. At a minimum JC in T3 you should have started to see hints of who he would become.

5) Arnie. He is still looking pretty great in this movie, but hes in his mid 50s. The machine is starting to look a bit softer, acting less machine like, even though it is a different terminator than the one that JC knew. Arnold's T2 and T3 feel too related. It didn't feel like enough was done to make them really separate characters, like T1 and T2 did.

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