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TopicOne Dillos Challenge - don't or else you'll scream when you pee [spicy] [dillos]
Grimlyn
05/06/23 12:08:03 PM
#360:


Terminator movies done

Dark Fate really is just The Force Awakens for the Terminator series... it's kinda okay to watch for its own thing but it's just an incredibly hack version of the previous stories that it's required to completely slash down to redo it... all while keeping whatever legacy characters they CAN keep (Arnold & Sarah Connor) to act as mentor types for the new editions that do the exact same thing as the old.

But because they have to give all this screentime to Arnold & Sarah Connor they don't get to spend any time develop their characters in their own right, it's just exposition given to them about how important that must be. You can say there's a bit of that in the concept of the first movies but T1's set pieces are still very much guided by Arnold, Sarah Connor, and Kyle Reese, with T2 subbing out Kyle Reese for now John Connor who we've been set up to see. They're all very tight stories that feel like they have something to say instead of "let's just do a terminator movie"

I understand T3 isn't held to the regard of the first two, and I can see why of course, but I appreciate it had a story to say and that ending truly does fit in with the series - underlining that the future has to occur to make the past. Even Salvation which yeah that was the point I was starting to zone out, but it was finally giving us something the last 3 movies were guiding us to: John Connor in the apocalypse. It's problem is that it just feels like a random side-story of his rise to become the saviour of humanity... also uh why do we finally make an apocalyse era movie but John Connor is not the star, just to do this whatever plot twist with some Marcus dude.

poor John, the first 3 movies all set him up but then 4 inexplicably focuses away from him, 5 turns him into a crazy villain, and 6 kills him off and bins him in the first couple minutes. The saviour of humanity!

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