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TopicNYC Mayor rips AOC for calling the subway chokehold murder.
badjay
05/05/23 1:22:10 PM
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Woah wait wtf, this guy is editing his facebook post, but facebook dates it to 3 days ago. What the hell?

https://www.facebook.com/people/Luces-de-Nueva-York/100090412633635/

I was about to correct someone (about him being choked for 15 minutes rather than 3) by quoting the guy everyone (including news) has been quoting and it appears he has changed what he wrote with no indication that he edited it (pardon me I don't use facebook very much to know if there is a feature like gamefaqs to look at previous edits).

[New edit here if someone can help me out, I don't have a facebook profile but you have to be logged in to look at previous edits here's how you can help me out]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/2/AABn_6AAEcpi.png

I was about to quote the part that I quoted yesterday this one (look at my original post to see what this passage is translated):

En esa postura estuvieron cerca de 15 minutos mientras otros pasajeros y el operador del tren llamaba a la polica (como se escucha en el video). Los uniformados, por cierto, nunca llegaron. Mientras el ahora cautivo luchaba por safarse de la llave, otros samaritanos se acercaron para auxiliar al guero y evitar que el otro escapara. Uno de ellos que recien habia abordado con una mujer, pareca mediar entre los dos que luchaban en el piso.

But it appears he has completely changed that text to this:

Antes de que el show continuar, y pese a que hasta el momento Jordan no parecia querer agredir a nadie, un joven de cabello castao y chamarra gris lo agarr por detrs del cuello y deposit en el piso mientras lo atenazaba con sus piernas.
Al llegar a Broadway Lafayette, las puertas se abrieron y la gente abandon el vagn. Jordan y el Marine siguieron en esa postura al menos 5 minutos. Mientras otros pasajeros (me incluyo) y el operador del tren llamaba a la polica (como se escucha en el video).

Here's a rough google translate for you non spanish speaking people:

Before the show continued, and despite the fact that Jordan did not seem to want to attack anyone so far, a young man with brown hair and a gray jacket grabbed him from behind the neck and placed him on the ground while holding him with his legs.
Arriving at Broadway Lafayette, the doors opened and people left the car. Jordan and the Marine remained in that position for at least 5 minutes. While other passengers (including myself) and the train operator called the police (as heard on the video).

So the story has changed from 15 minutes to AT LEAST 5 minutes. I mean it makes sense but makes him very unreliable now to me. The more notable edits is that he posts Jordan Neely's name as if he knew it the first time, which...has to be impossible because he never referenced him the first time. He also knows that the choker was a 24 year old marine. I get that he made the post in response to the NYPost of someone dying but dude don't edit it to the point where you're grabbing everyone's info and incorporating it into your post. Make new posts adding that info, don't stealth edit your original post which could have been used as a testimony and now is useless.

He also removed the line about George Floyd as well from his post. It no longer exists. I didn't make that shit up, I copy pasted it and now I can't ctrl F George Floyd in his new edited post anymore other than the replies that ALSO reference it. So basically this post was edited possibly in order to favor him with no accountability to the edit to let people know it was changed.

Honestly at this point it's probably best to wait to watch the train footage to see what really happened because this "freelance journalist" has no integrity in my eyes.

I'm not denying what happened a guy was choked and killed but, it'd be fucking embarrassing to say this marine choked a man who did nothing and a month from now police release NYC train footage showing Neely punching people on the train in a fury and this marine was a hero. Which I think is VERY unlikely because I would imagine witnesses would say that outright to the media and they'd be covering the shit out of a hero marine, but at best we have Neely throwing trash around (not at people from what I can see) and not really needing to be killed much less choked out.

https://abc7ny.com/subway-death-chokehold-jordan-neely-nyc/13214440/

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/1/AABn_6AAEcph.png

There WERE witnesses but nobody seems to say Neely was truly violent so odds are marine guy just homicided Neely for screaming and throwing trash around (according to news articles and word of mouth of Juan Vazquez). Murder or Manslaughter is up to the courts. I think it's murder when you're a trained marine who choke killed a person. You should know what is lethal force and non lethal force when choking someone. As for the "good Samaritans," I have no clue what to say about them, you'd think they would've stopped but they just kept going too. Accessory to murder on them? Unlikely in my opinion, unless they also happen to be marines as well, I'd say they're clueless about the amount of force necessary to kill someone. Info is going to be tainted from here on though, because if I were those "samaritans" in court I'd say "The guy called himself a marine and told me to help him. I just thought we were restraining him not killing him!"

It's going to be a messy courtcase for those accessory men, but likely not murder for them, involuntary manslaughter, maybe they get some slaps on the wrists or very minimal prison. Marine guy? Murder charge, not max sentence probably some shpiel about how young he is and he served our country (unless dishonorably discharged rofl).

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