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Jakyl25 posted...

What part of Hulk is strongest one there is dont you understand?

The problem with that is that it only really applies to certain versions of the Hulk (like in the comics, grey Hulk and Professor Hulk were generally weaker than some of the more mindless versions).

And it's only really true when he's really pissed. "The angrier Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets" applies, so he has to get really, really, really pissed off in order to get really, really strong. So if his heart's not really in a fight, or you can try and calm him down in some way, you can weaken him.

And it's completely negated if you have powers/abilities/tech that allows you to put him in a position where all his strength is useless. It doesn't matter how strong you are if you're in space where you have nothing to push against.



Emeraldegg posted...

This was an interesting journey we went on with Banner, trying to decide how we move him forward in the Marvel Universe. What makes him unique as a character is that there is a host body that is being fought over by two distinct personalities who hate each other. And both want control of the host body. So we thought an interesting direction to take him in is what if Banner, who typically uses the Hulk to solve crisis situations, what if the Hulk were no longer interested in solving those problems for Banner? So that the relationship is becoming increasingly dysfunctional. That's what's going on here.
People have speculated whether there was some fear on the Hulk's part about having to face Thanos again. But I think ultimately what it is, is that he's tired of playing hero to Bruce Banner.

Found what I was thinking of, this is the director of infinity war

The funny part is, it's the worst possible explanation for what's happening in that movie.

While people don't like the idea of the Hulk being afraid, it does kind of make sense for the MCU version of the character. And even syncs up to some stuff in the comics where sadness can affect how the Hulk manifests.

But what people tend to forget is that the key to the Hulk is that Banner needs to be the one who is mad to bring him out. So if Banner is terrified of Thanos (which would be fully justified), his fear could potentially prevent the Hulk from really manifesting. On top of which, the last time Banner turned into the Hulk he lost years of his life - the deep-seated subconscious fear that it might happen again (or that he might not come back at all next time) could be forming a psychological block that is preventing the Hulk from manifesting.

Even beyond which, if we assume the Hulk is 100% the one "refusing to come out" (which his reaction sort of implies in the film), there are other reasons for that as well. For starters he's just spent years on a planet where he was truly happy, fighting and being pampered - he's finally getting respect and adulation rather than the fear and disgust he usually faces on Earth. Having all that taken away by Thor and "puny Banner" could leave him so bitter and annoyed that he's basically become like a petulant child throwing a tantrum.

Or even beyond psychological issues, Hulk has just spent years never turning back into Banner. Because they've become something of a symbiotic pair, it feels like they need to have some sort of balance between the two. By not turning back into Banner, Hulk could have easily used up most of his "fuel", or otherwise wore out the biological component that allows the transformation. So he's not able to transform because he's too "tired", for want of a better term (this was honestly my interpretation of things the first time I watched the movie).