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Punished_Blinx posted...

Like the big bad of the OT was an old man who was thrown down a pit and they reused him as a reanimated corpse on a table. How is that more threatening than a time skipped Kylo Ren who has spent several years as Sith Lord?

You are just misrepresenting and bullshitting now. The big bad of the OT was Emperor of the galaxy and the guy pulling Vader's strings (a formidable antagonist themselves, who had two movies of buildup before the conclusion), and you are comparing him to an angsty loser who got shit on in both movies he was in. Are you serious? Do you understand what formidable antagonist is? It is not just about fighting, but Kylo Ren doesn't represent anything imposing or interesting. What value he does have is certainly not as the primary antagonist. In fact, he would have been much better as a wild card - which is what they tried and failed to do.

Kylo Ren having a time skipped powerup so he could be someone for maybe 15 minutes of screentime before he is abruptly defeated in the conclusion does not equal a formidable antagonist. You are basically saying "make an entirely new character in a time skip and then show him doing cool stuff he should have been doing in TLJ" which is laughable. They could have just made a completely new character and lost nothing because as already noted, the Kylo Ren of TLJ is an incompetent buffoon who already lost to Rey in TFA and would inevitably lose in the conclusion as well.