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Metalsonic66 posted...

I'd say Trump has him beat in that regard too

Yeah not to diminish the immense loss of life in Iraq, but we have no idea how many Covid deaths could've been prevented had Trump not completely bungled his handling of the pandemic.

Perhaps his greatest offense here is his repeated endorsement of conspiracies and quack medicine, helping to fuel anti-vax/anti-mask sentiment and fostering a growing distrust of science, medicine, and government. The effects here will last decades... His followers are completely rapt with his ideology. Even when Trump is gone, there are thousands, if not millions, of his core supporters who will carry these sentiments to the grave, and raise their kids with those same "values". Who knows how effective population health policies can be going forward when entire swaths of people fervently deny and push back against anything they deem as government overreach, even when it benefits them?

And that's just his handling of the pandemic. That's not to mention, as has already been pointed out in this topic, his border policies, his SC appointments and their impact on abortion and other matters, his rollbacks on EPA protections (coupled with his repeated climate change denial), his tax policies helping to widen the wealth gap and push people further into poverty, etc etc etc

Bush did horrible things, but it's beyond naive to think Trump has not at least matched, if not surpassed, Bush in terms of human suffering.

And as was pointed out, Bush genuinely cares for the country, and the people in it. I'm not saying he did everything right or was always doing things to benefit the nation and not his own agenda, but he generally had good motives.

Trump only cares for himself. I honestly don't think Trump even cares about his own children. Like, outside of Ivanka who he has some weird incestual feelings for, I don't think he would allow himself to face any consequences if he couldn't sacrifice someone else in his place. The man is a bonafide narcissistic sociopath who has only ever been looking out for his own interests.