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ReturnOfFa posted...

I'd probably compare it to apartheid tbh. Even if the retaliation has gotten extreme it still closely represents it.

South Africa's apartheid? Absolutely. Remember that Mandela was quite unambiguously a terrorist. He didn't decapitate any babies, obviously, but South Africa had a very similar situation going on where whites were institutionally oppressing blacks, blacks were lashing out violently, and that violence was met with further retaliatory violence from whites. Mandela was released from prison not because he was innocent, but because South Africa's leadership chose to stop the cycle of violence and oppression and forgive him.

ReturnOfFa posted...

I always consider the more powerful actor the one most capable of implementing measures to dial things back. Israel vs. Palestine at this point is a reciprocal terrorist mill. Civilians are massacred for little reason. I'm a lot more grossed out by Hamas this time around, so I don't like slogans like "Resistence is not Terrorism!" because there are both. But the entire complicity around Israel displacing tens of thousands of people is nutty as all hell.

Exactly. Retaliatory terrorism isn't going to help. It's just going to further radicalize Palestinians who see no hope except whatever Hamas offers them. Calling Hamas "freedom fighters" isn't altogether accurate because they aren't really prioritizing freedom in their actions (if they were, they'd be a lot more strategic about trying to take control of land/resources that instead of just racking up a civilian body count whenever the opportunity presents itself), but they are the only ones fighting for Palestinians' freedom in any capacity. Hamas would lose a ton of support if Palestinian civilians had better lives and weren't being oppressed by Israel, and most of their power would go with that.