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ZaruenKosai posted...

this conflict didnt start on october 7th shill, it has been going on long before hamas, israel has treaed palestinians like shit for years.

Before October 7th, Israel Security forces killed 248 Palestinians, including 40 children, just this year alone.

Some of Israels Past War Crimes Include

2009 - Operation Cast Lead
2012 - Operation Pillar of Defense
2014 - Operation Protective Edge

I know you're gonna say, Operation Cast Lead was because of Hamas firing rockets into Israel

Every single one of those were preceded by HAMAS attacks into Israel. Furthermore, by claiming all responsive operations are a war crimes, you imply that Israel cannot react to anything HAMAS does.

That was because Israel broke the ceasfire agreement they had on November 4th 2008 while the entire world was in euphoria about United States Electing the worlds first black president.

Israel used the opportunity to break the ceasefire agreement and raid gaza and killed palestinians, by the Israelis Foreign Ministers own words at the time.

"The strategy of breaking the ceasefire was to preempt Hamas into an attack, which they could use as a pretext for a much larger invasion.

Baffling isn't it.

Back to 1967, when Israel started a premeptive attack against egypt, syria and jordan and took more land from palestine further enclosing palestinians into the gaza strip.

This is actually an outright lie. In 1967, Egypt mobilized it's military to attack Israel and then declared war by conducting an internationally recognized *ACT OF WAR*. Furthermore, at the time Egypt and Syria had merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic, so that *ACT OF WAR* included both parties. Lastly, Jordan jumped in because it had just signed a defense treaty with the United Arab Republic.

In no way did Israel initiate that war.

they illegally occupied the gaza strip and the west bank in what has been formally condemned ever since 1967 as an illegal occupation in violation of international law unilaterally condemned by the world court, the UN, Geneva Conventions and the Red Cross. Worldwide consensus, the majority of countries of the world all call on israel to return to its pre-june 1967 borders.

This, therefore, is a compounded lie. For Israel gained those Egyptian and Jordanian lands in a defensive war. On top of that, Israel offered the lands back in return for peace treaties, but neither Egypt nor Jordan accepted that.

Back to 1948

In 1948 Zionists extirpated about a million Palestinians from their homes and forced them to relocate to the Gaza Strip, tody, about 70% of all Gazans are considered Refugees from the 1948 explusion.

Zionists?

You leave out some very salient facts from your narrative.

Furthermore, SEVEN Arab nations declared war on Israel - Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and Yemen. All at a time when Israel didn't even have an army yet.

In addition, these governments and armies all made it abundantly clear that their goal was not to defeat Israel, but to "push them into the sea"... aka: Genocide.

yes this sparked a conflict., when you have colonial powers coming into a territory that does not belogn to them and forcibly removing people from their land. it tends to get complicated.

To the Israelis, Israeli is their ancestral home, from where they were expelled by the Romans... and that they finally made it back. That is EQUALLY as valid a belief as the Palestinians claiming it as their homeland. If Israeli is the invader to Palestinians; well... Palestinians are the invaders for Israelis.

invoking the bible as an excuse to ethnically cleanse a population from its territory is a baby brained middle school argument

biblical rights have absolutely no status on the world of today. no one can say that 2000 years ago this is my story of what happened, therefore, I get to take the land from these people.

That's a wholesale disregard for the Israeli claim. Which, by default, means you allow the wholesale disregard of the Palestinian claim. And that does nothing but make the entire conflict more difficult to resolve.

Furthermore, the Jewish people have been praying to return back to Israel since the time of the Roman expulsion and the rise of rabbical Judaism.