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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 408: War Crimes Are Bad
Thorn
11/17/23 11:41:48 PM
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Seanchan posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/politics/trump-colorado-ballot-14th-amendment-insurrection/index.html

Insurrection. Totally okay if youre running for President!
That is such a wild ruling. "officer of the United States" does not include President lol. It's being appealed (to Colorado Supreme Court but probably ends up in SCOTUS eventually) but like... its nuts to have a court find "Yes, he engaged in insurrection of the United States" but then follow up with "butttttttt we're not 100% sure POTUS is an officer of the US so welp!"

Edit: Reading the actual ruling from the judge (it is very nice to see how they clearly labelled everything. SCOTUS should take notes.) It seems like they were reluctant to DQ here unless it was 110% clear that the 14th Amendment's word choice included POTUS/VPOTUS. To be completely fair to them, some of the points they mention the defense raised suggesting it didn't aren't totally insane but it does lead to the honestly pretty comical admission on their part that the Court has to proceed then under the assumption that for whatever reason the authors of the 14th Amendment just intentionally excluded POTUS/VPOTUS from the DQ part even as the judge also admits that the historian who testified for the plantiff raised the pretty obvious point that clearly the 14th Amendment would not have been understood by its authors to let Jefferson Davis run for POTUS after the Civil War along with the historian's citing from a Congressional Debate about the understanding of the meanings of the terms at the time.

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