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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
Zodd3224
09/18/17 1:58:31 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I morally think killing an embryo at any stage is wrong.

Why?


http://www.webmd.com/baby/1to3-months

Vacuuming that out and ending its developing life is wrong.

Im curious why you dont find that morally wrong?


1. "Why not?" isn't an answer.
2. I know what an embryo / fetus is.
3. *insert link about what mother goes through for 9 months of pregnancy + what happens to academic progress of teen mothers in high school, generous and assume adoption instead of then having financial burdern for 18 years*

Unlike you, instead of saying "Why do you think it's not immoral to force someone to go through that against their will." I will tell you why it's immoral.

1. Forcing pregnancy is discriminatory towards the poor. Rich women can fly to another country and get abortions. Additionally, giving birth is significantly more expensive than abortion which hurts people that lack health insurance.

2. Pregnancy in high school forces a drop out which irrevocably fucks up the rest of the mother's life for a decision made during a time when bad decision frequency is at its peak due to kids being stupid, horny, and stupid + horny at the same time.

3. Circumstances under which a child is conceived are not always constant. Parents who are well prepared to have a child may suddenly go home one day to find out that their house burned down because of a fridge fire and have to move into one of their parents' or some other issue that turns life upside down.

4. A mother may have a medical issue such as smoking or alcoholism that she's currently struggling with that would have a terrible impact on the baby.

5. Certain women, particularly teens, live in households were they might be subjected to abuse themselves if their parents discovered they were pregnant. They need to be able to terminate the pregnancy discreetly without causing alarm.

Now, you're free to elaborate why cutting out a clump of cells is immoral, and you're going to have to do better than "it just is"


Its funny how sympathetic you are to the pregnant person and their myriad excuses for not being responsible for the life they are creating (this applies to the father too). But the one being aborted is just a clump of cells... arent we all just clumps of cells?

If you can live with and justify killing the growing human you had a hand in creating, thats on you. Personally I couldnt live with myself saying yes to aborting a child that would have been mine, no matter the circumstances.


What if it had holes in its brain and doctors had concluded all it would be able to do after birth would be experiencing extreme pain and literally constant seizures? No speech, no motor function, minimal sensory perception aside from the extreme pain. Literally 100% of its life would be beyond torture and it wouldn't last more than a few years. Condition is incurable and untreatable.

Note this is a real case. The mother didn't find out about the condition until 8 months in and decided to end the fetus' misery, but had to fly a thousand miles to get to where it was legal.


That's a different story and understand that everything isnt always black and white.

That's a far different case than someone too lazy/stupid to use birth control and using abortion as birth control.
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