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ParanoidObsessive
09/26/17 7:53:58 PM
#160:


Zeus posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
because there's a perception (which is mostly accurate, honestly) that McMahons pop ratings.

Not sure Steph does any more =p

To be fair, that's a two-fold problem.

First, the effectiveness is muted by appearing on TV constantly. Vince got his recent pop (and upsurge of ratings) because he hasn't been on TV for a while. And Shane popped the crowd when he came back because he'd been gone for years at that point. But Steph was on TV every single week for an extended period of time, so people started getting sick of her.

And second, the real problem with Steph is that about 90% of the storylines she's involved in are basically her shitting on or putting herself over the wrestlers with absolutely no payback or comeuppance whatsoever, ever. Pretty much every time you see her she's being a grade-A turbo c***, yet almost no one ever really wins against her or shits on her effectively in promos, and she never gets the piss smacked out of her or gets thrown through a table or anything (and the one time she DID take a bump recently, it only happened "by accident", and when her husband was involved, so it had zero impact).

She doesn't actually seem to understand that even when he was at the height of his douchebaggery Vince was still getting Stone Cold Stunnered every other week, or having the shit kicked out of him with him blading after getting thrown off a cell or whatever (and Shane tends to benefit from similar suicidal tendencies). She's the only McMahon who gets presented as the untouchable golden girl who can't really be defeated. And since she's in charge of creative and her husband is the main wrestling guy, the fans are fully aware that she's responsible for her own Mary Sue presentation, and react more negatively because of it (ie, she might take less flack for it if it was at least someone else writing the script for her, and she had little say in how she was being presented).

But even Steph will likely pop a reaction when she inevitably comes back after being gone for a while. It's the end result of the WWE basically spending the last 20 years booking storylines that repeatedly tell us the McMahons are more important than any individual wrestler.



Zeus posted...
Well, they more need to develop actual talent who can sell tickets instead of sinking more time, money, and resources into a failed investment, but that's not going to happen.

I agree, but you can't really spin stars out of nothing in the short-term, so they still have to rely on established stars to carry the product until they can put new talent over enough to be strong draws, even if they started doing everything right tomorrow.

But because they've done such a shit job of MAKING new stars, they're running out of people to turn to as the older guys leave. With Undertaker being mostly retired, Angle apparently unable to wrestle, and guys like Jericho and Cena becoming more of occasional part-time acts, they're basically being forced to rely on guys who haven't actually managed to become significant draws (even the Internet darlings, let alone people like Roman).


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