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ParanoidObsessive posted...

And second, the real problem with Steph is that about 90% of the storylines she's involved in are basically her shitting on or putting herself over the wrestlers with absolutely no payback or comeuppance whatsoever, ever. Pretty much every time you see her she's being a grade-A turbo c***, yet almost no one ever really wins against her or shits on her effectively in promos, and she never gets the piss smacked out of her or gets thrown through a table or anything (and the one time she DID take a bump recently, it only happened "by accident", and when her husband was involved, so it had zero impact).

She doesn't actually seem to understand that even when he was at the height of his douchebaggery Vince was still getting Stone Cold Stunnered every other week, or having the shit kicked out of him with him blading after getting thrown off a cell or whatever (and Shane tends to benefit from similar suicidal tendencies).

Which is also a gender issue, because the WWE -- like wrestling promos before it -- generally don't like depicting male wrestlers beating up female talent. The only recent times I can recall anybody getting her back was when Vickie shoved her in a vat of mud and when Brie slapped her.... although that didn't really end the feud and things continued to go quite a bit longer.

(Thus I present to you one of the *only* times Steph was paid back)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDbxKHhotus

Granted, I guess Steph has little excuse because Vickie -- also not a performer and in way worse shape -- jobbed to some of the female wrestlers and took some bumps before getting out of the business. Not that the female non-wrestlers ever take the bumps that male non-wrestlers take. I think Jon Stewart took a bigger bump than most of the female non-wrestlers.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Not really. Plenty of face feuds ended with both faces either just sort of moving on, or one face sort of drifting off without really acknowledging the loss. Arguably, the WWE has booked multiple face vs face storylines lately, and almost none of them have ended with the "HANDSHAKE OF RESPECT" spot.

Maybe I'm thinking more old school then, because faces acknowledging faces beating them -- either holding their arm up or shaking their hand -- is kinda the image impressed on my mind. Come to think of it, even D-Bry's match vs Reigns ended with a handshake.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

But when you're dealing with a feud which is entirely built on the premise of "You can't carry the company without me," and you absolutely know the company is pushing the guy as the future of the company, it would have ended the exact same way even if Cena was a heel, Roman was a heel, or they were both heels. The entire feud existed solely for that payoff, so the WWE can go "See? Cena likes Roman now! He respects him! WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ROMAN?!"

Yeah... I can kinda see the issue since it wasn't a matter of "who's the better man?" so much as it was "this company is dying with you in the main event spot" which can't be resolved with a win or loss.
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