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Topic	Chatanooga man fired for sitting during national anthem at work event
s0nicfan 10/11/17 10:43:37 AM #13:	Giant_Aspirin posted... s0nicfan posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... "Would I feel the same way if he was fired for standing during the anthem?" if you don't say "yes", reevaluate your stance, because the answer should be "yes". Why would it be yes unless we're completely ignoring context? Standing during the anthem is what "everyone" does, so following the group's actions and not rocking the boat isn't usually what gets people fired. "Othering" yourself by going against the group's actions is what can lead to termination. but you're asserting that the company has the right to fire individuals for doing something the company doens't like. if the company had a very different political viewpoint and insisted people sat during the anthem and fired those who disobeyed, it should be treated the same. No, I'm asserting that the way people feel about someone being fired depends entirely on whether the actions that led to termination were ones that everyone else in the company does versus one that explicitly makes them look like an outsider to the group. EDIT: To address your scenario, if a company had an explicit "we don't stand during the anthem" policy and a guy was fired for standing, I'd feel exactly the same about the firing as this person here. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:888226251] in Chatanooga... [t:75867666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>"Would I feel the same way if he was fired for standing during the anthem?" if you don't say "yes", reevaluate your stance, because the answer should be "yes".</quote> Why would it be yes unless we're completely ignoring context? Standing during the anthem is what "everyone" does, so following the group's actions and not rocking the boat isn't usually what gets people fired. "Othering" yourself by going against the group's actions is what can lead to termination.</quote> but you're asserting that the company has the right to fire individuals for doing something the company doens't like. if the company had a very different political viewpoint and insisted people sat during the anthem and fired those who disobeyed, it should be treated the same.</quote> No, I'm asserting that the way people feel about someone being fired depends entirely on whether the actions that led to termination were ones that everyone else in the company does versus one that explicitly makes them look like an outsider to the group. EDIT: To address your scenario, if a company had an explicit "we don't stand during the anthem" policy and a guy was fired for standing, I'd feel exactly the same about the firing as this person here. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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