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Inviso posted...

Yet the line of argument he's creating is that BOTH should be forced out of the Senate. That is the BASELINE he is setting, that regardless of severity or nuance, you should suffer the maximum possible punishment the SENATE has to offer. Saying that Roy Moore should be tried in court after the fact does not change anything. It's just tacking on an extra punishment beyond the Senate itself.

First off, you're just flat-out wrong about resignation being the maximum possible punishment from the Senate. That would be expulsion.

Secondly, the calls for Moore to be expelled if elected are thus actually "harsher" than calling for Franken to resign. (Again, ignoring that it's literally voluntary. The other 99 Senators can all call for him to resign but only Franken can decide that, there is no element of force in play)

Thirdly, dismissing "tried in court" because it's outside the Senate is asinine and disingenuous. Let's frame this another way. On a scale of consequences that ranges from 0-10. Let's say Resignation from the Senate rates a 2. Expulsion is a 3. Because in both cases you're "just" losing a job when in most cases you're already very wealthy.

You can subsequently believe that Franken merits say a 2, and Moore warrants a 9 on that scale and you still lead to an outcome where they're both not in the Senate. Since the Senate doesn't have any recourse to handle anything above a 3 you have to turn to the courts or something for more.
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