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Topic	With Net Neutrality ending today I just wanted to say it was nice knowing yall
Gamer99z 12/14/17 1:43:22 PM #49:	Mal_Fet posted... I have no clue how the EC fits into this, but middle America isn't fucked because of ISPs. Wanting the internet as a service to work like a utility would basically guarantee a state of affairs like electric companies have now: no competition anywhere and they can raise their prices ad nauseum and you can't do anything about it. The EC thing was just me going off topic like I said. Where am I saying that the internet should be regulated like electric companies though? I specified exactly what I'm proposing: Gamer99z posted... How would NN specifically lead to the internet turning into something like that? Even disregarding NN specifically and just the specific point I'm making which is that the internet is a market of it's own, is necessary in modern life, and ISP's should be made to not discriminate traffic and offer their service as a level playing field in that regard with the source of competition stemming primarily through pricing and speed plans. How would that kill competition or hurt the free market? How would that lead to an electric company situation? Mal_Fet posted... Gamer99z posted... Because right now ISP's will just buy out little guys or even do more scummy things like throw frivolous lawsuits at them that take years and keep them from breaking ground and losing money as well as doing things like what my current ISP did and make a deal with the city out here for what iirc is an exclusive contract until 2020 or something. What regulations need to be removed to fix that problem that many Americans fall into? Literally none of this is prevented by Net Neutrality. I know, that's the entire point I was making. That's the current issue facing a good portion of America in regards to internet access. How is repealing NN and making the internet more "free" as you'd see it to be, going to help that or how is An causing any of that? Since we both know the answer to that is it won't and it isn't, what specific regulations do you think need to be removed to fix that problem? Because to me it seems like no amount of deregulation would help that, in the case of all those regional monopolies the issue is that they're too big and not letting anyone else into the market. When something like that happens, that's when you need consumer protections to kick in. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:892210249] in With Net N... [t:76098270]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>I have no clue how the EC fits into this, but middle America isn't fucked because of ISPs. Wanting the internet as a service to work like a utility would basically guarantee a state of affairs like electric companies have now: no competition anywhere and they can raise their prices ad nauseum and you can't do anything about it.</quote> The EC thing was just me going off topic like I said. Where am I saying that the internet should be regulated like electric companies though? I specified exactly what I'm proposing: <cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote>How would NN specifically lead to the internet turning into something like that? Even disregarding NN specifically and just the specific point I'm making which is that the internet is a market of it's own, is necessary in modern life, and ISP's should be made to not discriminate traffic and offer their service as a level playing field in that regard with the source of competition stemming primarily through pricing and speed plans. How would that kill competition or hurt the free market?</quote> How would that lead to an electric company situation? <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote> Because right now ISP's will just buy out little guys or even do more scummy things like throw frivolous lawsuits at them that take years and keep them from breaking ground and losing money as well as doing things like what my current ISP did and make a deal with the city out here for what iirc is an exclusive contract until 2020 or something. What regulations need to be removed to fix that problem that many Americans fall into?</quote> Literally none of this is prevented by Net Neutrality.</quote> I know, that's the entire point I was making. That's the current issue facing a good portion of America in regards to internet access. How is repealing NN and making the internet more "free" as you'd see it to be, going to help that or how is An causing any of that? Since we both know the answer to that is it won't and it isn't, what specific regulations do you think need to be removed to fix that problem? Because to me it seems like no amount of deregulation would help that, in the case of all those regional monopolies the issue is that they're too big and not letting anyone else into the market. When something like that happens, that's when you need consumer protections to kick in. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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