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ChaoticKnuckles posted...

Disprove them then please. Again, everything I said is correct. We already know there was a physical altercation, Zimmermans wounds are proof of that. No one saw how it started. No one actually saw the shooting. Okay, John Good saw a portion of the fight that we already know happened. Youre not addressing my point. We dont know how it started. Did Trayvon attack him out of nowhere? Did he attack Trayvon? Did he approach Trayvon and get into a verbal altercation with him? Did that verbal altercation then turn physical? Did Trayvon throw the first punch or did he? We dont know. Zimmerman says he was attacked and feared for his life.

This is intellectual dishonesty.

On two levels.

1. We have a system of innocent until proven guilty. so going "WE don't know what happened, all the facts we know show he did nothing wrong and we just don't know that he did anything wrong at all!" means Zimmerman is innocent.

2. "We don't have footage of this, therefore we don't know what happened." is stupidity. We have very strong evidence of what happened.

For starters Zimmermans account, which corberated by the witnesses you already mentioned, the police and all forensic evidence. As well as Trayvon and his girlfriend's conversations.

We know for a fact Trayvon got away from Zimmerman, got home, turned around and went after Zimmerman.

We know for a fact when the police arrived they incorrectly told Zimmerman that the entire incident was filmed and Zimmerman's reaction was immense relief and "Thank God!"

We also know for a fact Zimmerman did not lay a hand on Trayvon. We know for a fact Zimmerman got his ass kicked, shot Trayvon and then after shooting Trayvon tried to hold him down. The second zimmerman had the upper-hand he made zero attempt to assault Trayvon at all.

So your token of logic is that Zimmeran told the exact truth about everything EXCEPT After Trayvon went after the "Creepy Ass Cracker" and told his girlfriend so, he actually went to give Zimmerman a big hug and buy him flowers.

But instead Zimmerman for no reason whatsoever launched into a flying karate kick, missed, then Trayvon responded in self-defense of course by literally attempting to murder Zimmerman in the street. Upon which Zimmerman suddenly got LESS angry somehow and decided he didn't want to hurt Trayvon anymore because he was so impressed with Trayvon's ability to kill people.

That's not reasonable. It's literally religious logic "We just don't KNOW! I mean we do know, but we don't KNOW!" It's of equal merit to argue that Trayvon was abducted by aliens and the body they left behind was a fake decoy corpse. And Trayvon is now on planet Paris IV.

I mean you can't PROVE that didn't happen!?

We know more about what happened that night than we do about pretty much anything that wasn't filmed in all of history. We know beyond reasonable doubt nearly every single thing that happened based on overwhelming evidence and common sense.

Decrying that is no different to Fundamental Christians saying the world is 6,000 years old. Don't be that guy, be intelligent.

Especially when you'd be moot regardless due to innocent until proven guilty.
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^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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