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Topic	Is Marxism a viable ideology?
The23rdMagus 01/25/18 1:38:16 AM #24:	nicklebro posted... The23rdMagus posted... You can discuss the advantages of an idea that you ultimately disagree with, especially if the advantages are grossly outweighed by the disadvantages. Yes, command economies can be extremely efficient - but so far, only short-term. Russia had an enormous boom that led to a catastrophic bust. And that leaves out who it was on the backs of. Same thing with North Korea, I believe they were initially far more successful a country than South Korea. But short term gains have literally nothing to do with sustainability which is what determines something's viability. I have no idea why people think that pointing out that certain instances of Marxism were not complete failures from start to finish somehow negates the fact that they all ended as abject failures. They very quickly ceased to be anything close to Marxism, to be fair. I doubt that any society could "stick to the plan", or even be viable if they did. I don't think we'll ever know, but at least early on there was inspiration in other countries for laborers' rights and such. Best thing I can say about the whole idea from a practical standpoint. --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:894754752] in Is Marxism... [t:76239994]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>You can discuss the advantages of an idea that you ultimately disagree with, especially if the advantages are grossly outweighed by the disadvantages. Yes, command economies can be extremely efficient - but so far, only short-term. Russia had an enormous boom that led to a catastrophic bust. And that leaves out who it was on the backs of.</quote> Same thing with North Korea, I believe they were initially far more successful a country than South Korea. But short term gains have literally nothing to do with sustainability which is what determines something's viability. I have no idea why people think that pointing out that certain instances of Marxism were not complete failures from start to finish somehow negates the fact that they all ended as abject failures.</quote> They very quickly ceased to be anything close to Marxism, to be fair. I doubt that any society could "stick to the plan", or even be viable if they did. I don't think we'll ever know, but at least early on there was inspiration in other countries for laborers' rights and such. Best thing I can say about the whole idea from a practical standpoint. --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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