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| Millennials 02/01/18 9:47:24 AM #147: | KobeSystem posted... do vegans care about insects To varying degrees. The main goal of vegans is to reduce their role in the suffering and exploitation of animals as far as is practical and possible. Insects are animals but it is often practical to kill them because of the health risks they pose to humans. It's generally not practical to let yourself or others become ill or die because of them. Mosquitoes, houseflies, fruit flies, drain flies, ants, and cockroaches all get the axe from me because they pose health risks, some of which I or someone I know has been severely debilitated by in the past. Crickets, centipedes, millipedes, various beetles, moths, and crane flies get captured and released. I'm allergic to wasps, so those get iced if they get too close, but I generally let them chill if they're minding their own business. Not insects, but I'll let non-venomous spiders chill. If I see a brown recluse or black widow, though, they dead. Same for scorpions, although those have never been a big problem for me. The most effort I make concerning insects is to try to make human space as inhospitable to them as possible in the first place. Screens on doors/windows and cleanliness go along way in keeping the pests out. When it's wasp season, we spray peppermint oil on their usual spots and that seems to work. We've tried the decoy nests but they always seem to get broken or blown away by wind/storms. Cinnamon seems to keep ants away from the foundation of the house. That is just stuff people should do to protect their homes in general, though, and not so much a matter of being a vegan, but there is the added bonus of not having to kill them if I keep them from being a problem. That said, I have met a few vegans who strive not to kill any animals, ever, but their veganism was more spiritually motivated and bolstered by a sanctity for all life. Those probably aren't that common and most vegans won't/can't go that far. I surely couldn't. MLGSerperior111 posted... Oh boy, my FAVORITE type of logic! Not to step on Foxx's toes, it's not so much that you are doing nothing to lessen it, it's that by consuming animal products, you are doing something that directly contributes to their suffering. Not voting at all is doing nothing with the side effect that you are strengthening one candidate's chances should more people turn out for him or her. Spending your money on burgers or leather boots is directly funding and perpetuating a business that directly causes the suffering of animals. DyingPancake posted... it kind of sucks but it is what it is It sucks to an extreme magnitude* and it only "is what it is" because people let it be that way. There's nothing at all that says we must have factory farm meat and tons that say we can't afford them for very much longer. Even if you don't care about the animals themselves enough to muster a more impassioned comment than "yeah it sucks meh what can we do \_()_/" then consider what it does for the environment that humans depend on. Consider that animal agriculture is one of the biggest polluters of land, water, and air. Consider that antibiotics that these animals are pumped with are creating super bugs that we may never be able to treat. Hunting and small farms are not a solution because those are not abundant enough to continue to carry the load of meat consumption. Greatly reducing, at the very least, the consumption of animal products and moving to a plant based diet is currently the only hope for sustainability. --- ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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