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Topic	Talking to developers is like pulling teeth sometimes
pinky0926 05/22/18 7:20:57 AM #1:	Say you wanted to make a cup of tea and that was a reasonably skill specific developer task in this weird hypothetical universe. Me: Hey, so we need to make a cup of tea for Sarah. Dev: tea isn't good for you. Too much caffeine. Me: Ok granted and I agree, but this is what the client is asking for here. Could you give me an estimate on how long would it take? What would you need in terms of specs/equipment etc? Dev: kettle doesn't work. Me: Ok, so we need a new kettle. So if I provide that to you you should be set? Dev: why does she want tea? Me: Well, to drink it. Dev: they shouldn't drink tea. There are better drinks, like mountain dew. Me: Ok putting aside personal feelings about tea, if we can agree it's not actually an unreasonable request and it's within our power and skillset and service level and the price is right, how would we go about doing it? I've got the kettle down. What else would you need? Dev: It can't be done because the kettle is being used for coffee. Me: I thought you said the kettle doesn't work? Dev: No it works but we don't have time to use it. Me: Ok, so you need more time, or perhaps another kettle resource? Dev: Maybe. It's hard to say. There's a lot of factors, it's all very complicated. Me: Alright, so that's why we're having this discussion, to puzzle out the factors and what you'll need to help. Dev: I just don't understand why they want tea There's lots of memes on the internet about $users but here's the other side of it.Trying to get developers to do something they feel is beneath their time and extraordinary intelligence is one of the most persistently annoying parts of my day job. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:901778645] in Talking to... [t:76632212]...</cite> <quote>Say you wanted to make a cup of tea and that was a reasonably skill specific developer task in this weird hypothetical universe. Me: Hey, so we need to make a cup of tea for Sarah. Dev: tea isn't good for you. Too much caffeine. Me: Ok granted and I agree, but this is what the client is asking for here. Could you give me an estimate on how long would it take? What would you need in terms of specs/equipment etc? Dev: kettle doesn't work. Me: Ok, so we need a new kettle. So if I provide that to you you should be set? Dev: why does she want tea? Me: Well, to drink it. Dev: they shouldn't drink tea. There are better drinks, like mountain dew. Me: Ok putting aside personal feelings about tea, if we can agree it's not actually an unreasonable request and it's within our power and skillset and service level and the price is right, how would we go about doing it? I've got the kettle down. What else would you need? Dev: It can't be done because the kettle is being used for coffee. Me: I thought you said the kettle doesn't work? Dev: No it works but we don't have time to use it. Me: Ok, so you need more time, or perhaps another kettle resource? Dev: Maybe. It's hard to say. There's a lot of factors, it's all very complicated. Me: Alright, so that's why we're having this discussion, to puzzle out the factors and what you'll need to help. Dev: I just don't understand why they want tea There's lots of memes on the internet about $users but here's the other side of it.Trying to get developers to do something they feel is beneath their time and extraordinary intelligence is one of the most persistently annoying parts of my day job. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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