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Topic	Reinforcement Learning already debunks True AI naysayers
scar the 1 05/29/18 5:11:14 AM #26:	Milkman5 posted... scar the 1 posted... Milkman5 posted... scar the 1 posted... Uh, I would think that an AI could already beat a pro in Starcraft. In fact I would be quite surprised if it couldn't. not yet apparently. I think they released an AI last year and humans were able to beat it Can you provide a link to this, as well? Is it a client-side AI? I just googled it after you made your post and I found this article. I didn't read the article completely https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609242/humans-are-still-better-than-ai-at-starcraftfor-now/ Thanks. I don't get the point of your bet, since I think it's the most obvious conclusion in the history of the observable universe that we would be able to make an AI that can beat a human player at Starcraft :). Milkman5 posted... I don't think I'm underestimating it. I made sure to state I'm making a jump and assuming a lot of things. It's just what I have observed a humans personally, it's not scientific, but obviously we don't have enough information at the present time to say that is either possible or impossible to replicate human decision making Don't get me wrong, I think we're making some fascinating progress in terms of replicating human intelligence, but you'll never convince me that we'll be able to perfectly model human behavior. Because models are never perfect. If they were, would they really be models? Just because we know there's an element of a reward mechanism in our brain and we can model a reward mechanism in a computer it doesn't mean that we'll be able to perfectly replicate a human brain. Will we ever make an AI that could pass the Turing test? Debatable. I'm not sure it's even possible by definition to pass that test. When does it end? When can you say with 100% certainty that "you're 100% like a human and nothing you say in the future will make me change my mind"? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:902166633] in Reinforcem... [t:76653626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, I would think that an AI could already beat a pro in Starcraft. In fact I would be quite surprised if it couldn't.</quote> not yet apparently. I think they released an AI last year and humans were able to beat it</quote> Can you provide a link to this, as well? Is it a client-side AI?</quote> I just googled it after you made your post and I found this article. I didn't read the article completely https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609242/humans-are-still-better-than-ai-at-starcraftfor-now/</quote> Thanks. I don't get the point of your bet, since I think it's the most obvious conclusion in the history of the observable universe that we would be able to make an AI that can beat a human player at Starcraft :). <cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think I'm underestimating it. I made sure to state I'm making a jump and assuming a lot of things. It's just what I have observed a humans personally, it's not scientific, but obviously we don't have enough information at the present time to say that is either possible or impossible to replicate human decision making</quote> Don't get me wrong, I think we're making some fascinating progress in terms of replicating human intelligence, but you'll never convince me that we'll be able to perfectly model human behavior. Because models are never perfect. If they were, would they really be models? Just because we know there's an element of a reward mechanism in our brain and we can model a reward mechanism in a computer it doesn't mean that we'll be able to perfectly replicate a human brain. Will we ever make an AI that could pass the Turing test? Debatable. I'm not sure it's even possible by definition to pass that test. When does it end? When can you say with 100% certainty that "you're 100% like a human and nothing you say in the future will make me change my mind"? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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