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Topic	Ireland legalized abortion
Revelation34 05/29/18 2:01:35 PM #33:	adjl posted... If humans produce it, it's artificial. Is that an exceedingly narrow and pedantic interpretation of the term? Absolutely, which is why I prefaced that with "if you want to be really pedantic [...]". But it does illustrate how silly it is to use the line between natural and artificial as a basis for anything meaningful. On the flip side, most things we readily consider artificial are made possible through processes that could be considered natural, like muscle movement and brain activity. What you were saying wasn't a real example of the naturalistic fallacy, but it was relying on a similar perceived dichotomy between natural and artificial things that just isn't there. It's a very arbitrary line, and so shouldn't be used for anything as significant as a literal matter of life and death. Use a better dictionary. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/artificial adjl posted... I'm actually not fond of making that distinction, despite being pro-choice. It always feels to me like it's trying to downplay the gravity of the situation. As pro-choice as I am, I do recognize that abortion entails taking a human life. Any effort to say it doesn't strikes me as arbitrarily drawing the line for "human life" where it's most convenient/comfortable, and I don't like that at all. I just also recognize that sometimes taking a life is the lesser of two evils, and provided the choice is made with the appropriate seriousness (and it usually is, as much as pro-lifers like to bring up fringe cases of women who have abortions for fun), I'm not going to tell anyone they can't make it. I don't see how that is saying it isn't taking a life. I'm just pointing out using loaded words like "baby" or "child" is wrong. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902185096] in Ireland le... [t:76650324]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>If humans produce it, it's artificial. Is that an exceedingly narrow and pedantic interpretation of the term? Absolutely, which is why I prefaced that with "if you want to be really pedantic [...]". But it does illustrate how silly it is to use the line between natural and artificial as a basis for anything meaningful. On the flip side, most things we readily consider artificial are made possible through processes that could be considered natural, like muscle movement and brain activity. What you were saying wasn't a real example of the naturalistic fallacy, but it was relying on a similar perceived dichotomy between natural and artificial things that just isn't there. It's a very arbitrary line, and so shouldn't be used for anything as significant as a literal matter of life and death.</quote> Use a better dictionary. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/artificial <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> I'm actually not fond of making that distinction, despite being pro-choice. It always feels to me like it's trying to downplay the gravity of the situation. As pro-choice as I am, I do recognize that abortion entails taking a human life. Any effort to say it doesn't strikes me as arbitrarily drawing the line for "human life" where it's most convenient/comfortable, and I don't like that at all. I just also recognize that sometimes taking a life is the lesser of two evils, and provided the choice is made with the appropriate seriousness (and it usually is, as much as pro-lifers like to bring up fringe cases of women who have abortions for fun), I'm not going to tell anyone they can't make it.</quote> I don't see how that is saying it isn't taking a life. I'm just pointing out using loaded words like "baby" or "child" is wrong. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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