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Topic	Why is Jim Sterling complaining that it's easier for bad games to get on Steam.
Dikitain 06/12/18 5:56:42 AM #38:	adjl posted... Dikitain posted... Store implies that it would be a single shop (I.E. developer) selling games. I mean you can argue that it is a store for Valve games but not for other developers. Not at all. A store is just a place to exchange money for stuff, stocked with goods the store owner wants to sell. Those goods don't have to be produced by the store's owners (and in many cases, they are not), they just have to be purchased for resale. Key word: purchased Steam doesn't purchase the keys, they just provide an outlet for them to be sold. Again, similar to a mall. adjl posted... Dikitain posted... unlike a typical store where they would buy a set number of keys for sale and it would be their responsibility to sell them at what they think is a fair price for profit That is effectively what they do. The nature of digital goods is such that Valve's purchase of the key from the developer happens at the same time as the consumer's purchase of the key from Steam, but that doesn't change that it's absolutely a retail transaction. Valve handles all distribution in exchange for their cut of the sale price. Except Valve doesn't set the price, the developer does. Sure in a regular store a distributor can set a "suggested retail price" but the fact is the store can still sell the goods for whatever price they want. Not so with Steam. Even during Steam sales it is the developer that decides how much a game get's discounted. adjl posted... Dikitain posted... Is it a mall's responsibility when you buy a shirt that falls apart from a store that rents space there? In a way, yeah. Malls weed out those shops by charging rent; if the shop sucks, they won't be able to pay their rent, so they'll be booted out. Malls also don't want their reputation dragged through the mud by poor-quality shops, so they generally don't want shops that aren't doing well enough to be sustainable. Malls don't give a damn about the quality of the shops there, so long as they pay the rent. Similarly, Steam doesn't care about the quality of the games on their platform so long as they get the money for putting games up and a cut of all sales. It is really not that difficult: Steam is just a platform for developers to sell their shit. Anyone thinking they should even have quality control in the first place is insane. Why would a platform with unlimited resources to sell everything under the sun care what should and shouldn't be sold there? They shouldn't. Even the physical store analogy doesn't work because they only care about quality due to having limited space to sell their goods. Steam doesn't have that issue so they have the freedom to sell whatever game exists under the yellow sun. If people are stupid enough to buy the shit piles, that is their fault. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:903046681] in Why is Jim... [t:76697117]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Store implies that it would be a single shop (I.E. developer) selling games. I mean you can argue that it is a store for Valve games but not for other developers. </quote> Not at all. A store is just a place to exchange money for stuff, stocked with goods the store owner wants to sell. Those goods don't have to be produced by the store's owners (and in many cases, they are not), they just have to be purchased for resale.</quote> Key word: purchased Steam doesn't purchase the keys, they just provide an outlet for them to be sold. Again, similar to a mall. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>unlike a typical store where they would buy a set number of keys for sale and it would be their responsibility to sell them at what they think is a fair price for profit</quote> That is effectively what they do. The nature of digital goods is such that Valve's purchase of the key from the developer happens at the same time as the consumer's purchase of the key from Steam, but that doesn't change that it's absolutely a retail transaction. Valve handles all distribution in exchange for their cut of the sale price.</quote> Except Valve doesn't set the price, the developer does. Sure in a regular store a distributor can set a "suggested retail price" but the fact is the store can still sell the goods for whatever price they want. Not so with Steam. Even during Steam sales it is the developer that decides how much a game get's discounted. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote> Is it a mall's responsibility when you buy a shirt that falls apart from a store that rents space there?</quote> In a way, yeah. Malls weed out those shops by charging rent; if the shop sucks, they won't be able to pay their rent, so they'll be booted out. Malls also don't want their reputation dragged through the mud by poor-quality shops, so they generally don't want shops that aren't doing well enough to be sustainable.</quote> Malls don't give a damn about the quality of the shops there, so long as they pay the rent. Similarly, Steam doesn't care about the quality of the games on their platform so long as they get the money for putting games up and a cut of all sales. It is really not that difficult: Steam is just a platform for developers to sell their shit. Anyone thinking they should even have quality control in the first place is insane. Why would a platform with unlimited resources to sell everything under the sun care what should and shouldn't be sold there? They shouldn't. Even the physical store analogy doesn't work because they only care about quality due to having limited space to sell their goods. Steam doesn't have that issue so they have the freedom to sell whatever game exists under the yellow sun. If people are stupid enough to buy the shit piles, that is their fault. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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