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zebatov posted...

Nobody saw the links I posted, I guess, because everyone here is talking about someone different.

That would be because xjay referenced giving a "terrorist" over 10 million dollars. That was Khadr, not the Toronto 18.

zebatov posted...

The guy I'm mentioning (and posted links to) was not Canadian originally.

He was a Canadian at the time he committed his offence, having immigrated to Canada when he was 13.

Moreover, your own statement is also pretty detached from reality. No, Trudeau didn't "pardon" Zakaria Amara - he remains in prison serving out a life sentence, which is exactly where he was before Trudeau was elected. The only thing the Liberal government did was reverse a piece of Conservative legislation (C-24) that allowed the government to strip the citizenship of any dual citizens convicted of terrorist acts (notably, Amara was literally the only person in history that this law was used against, which should tell you something straight away). The Liberals, in essence, returned the law to the way it was prior to Stephen Harper's election. That's a far cry from a pardon and it's still likely that Amara will die in prison; the only thing that's different is that if he shows enough rehabilitation and progress to make parole, he will be allowed to remain in Canada rather than be deported to Jordan, a country he hasn't lived in since he was four years old.

Obviously this is a more subjective case, but I don't look at this as a terrible thing. Parole is supposed to indicate that an inmate has made enough progress in their attempts at rehabilitation that we as a society are willing to put a degree of our trust in them. That being the case, there's no logical reason why they should be punished further at that point - their debt to society has, according to our laws, been paid.

Now you may disagree and that's fine. Go ahead and argue that point and we can have a discussion on it. But do yourself a favour and make it a grown-up discussion by leaving the gross mischaracterizations of what actually happened at home. If you want to argue that this legislation is misguided, that's fine, but you don't need to lie and suggest that Trudeau pardoned a terrorist when he actually did no such thing in order to make that point.
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