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TopicAmericans of PotD: If Trump goes for re-election in 2020, will you vote for him?
ParanoidObsessive
06/16/18 10:00:13 PM
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Entity13 posted...
Ripping children from their families, with or without the intent to deter immigration, especially in a land built on the mere idea of immigrants being welcome? Evil and stupid; it's nothing short of that.

On the other hand, we implicitly accept the idea that it's humane, moral, and acceptable to remove children from parents when said parents are criminals, abusers, or considered corrupting influences (the entire reason child services departments exist).

If you extend that logic to the fact that illegal immigrants are, you know, illegal (ie, criminals), and that some immigrants do indeed exploit US citizenship laws to get their children born on US soil to exploit loopholes to get their own residency tacitly approved or supported, and an argument does arise that the morality of such becomes much murkier, and more rooted in HOW the process is handled rather than whether it happens at all.

There are very few issues in the world that are absolutely black-and-white. And no matter how much the Internet loves to portray Trump as a mustache-twirling supervillain, he doesn't go around doing things solely for the evil lulz.

If anything, that mentality undercuts a lot of his most vocal critics (and criticism in general), because it reduces the entire discussion to childish insults and whining, meaning even valid complaints get completely lost in the noise. When you are completely unwilling to even attempt to understand the logic behind someone's actions, dismiss literally everything they say or do, and never address issues based on actual logic or facts and but emotionally rant about how terrible they are (the classic ad hominem), the usual result is that you accomplish absolutely nothing, the person you're complaining about ceases the give a single shit about what you're saying, and everyone else starts ignoring both sides because it starts to look like a kindergarten slap fight.


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