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Topic	What is our moral obligation to Mexico and Central America?
alt_no_1_loves 06/20/18 7:37:08 PM #21:	tennisdude818 posted... The overwhelming majority of people living here have nothing to do with the problems of Central America. This is true, but not relevant to whether or not we can decide to care about those problems and our ways of dealing with them when they arrive on our doorstep (excuse the pun) tennisdude818 posted... Now if you're mostly focused of foreign aid, I could see a role for private sector aid that doesn't hamper the development of local business (for example, nobody can compete against free stuff). From what I know of working at a private company that works in both public and private sectors on dealing with things like this, the reality of foreign aid is much more complicated than you imply here. Public and private sector approaches are both used, with the goals of being most beneficial and least disruptive. tennisdude818 posted... I actually think that massive public sector foreign aid is far more intellectually honest than open borders even though I don't support it. Kids who physically are taken here shouldn't receive help before the countless others who aren't taken here if we owe Central America something. This is an interesting idea, but I still think it's important to humanely handle people who show up at our border, and its also just pragmatic. The goal (or at least my goal) is to help the most people, everywhere, so I'm not going to start by ignoring those who are easiest to reach. tennisdude818 posted... When you say, "completely close the border" do you mean "enforce border laws"? If we want to enforce border laws, and we should, let's do it right and not criminally prosecute everyone who presents at a port of entry seeking asylum. Because that's not what US or international laws we have thus far respected say should happen. I may have taken "completely close the border" from someone else's post, or just from conservative rhetoric I have seen elsewhere. I didn't mean to attribute that idea to you, my bad. --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 1 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years) <cite>alt_no_1_loves posted [p:903656857] in What is ou... [t:76734174]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>The overwhelming majority of people living here have nothing to do with the problems of Central America. </quote> This is true, but not relevant to whether or not we can decide to care about those problems and our ways of dealing with them when they arrive on our doorstep (excuse the pun) <cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>Now if you're mostly focused of foreign aid, I could see a role for private sector aid that doesn't hamper the development of local business (for example, nobody can compete against free stuff). </quote> From what I know of working at a private company that works in both public and private sectors on dealing with things like this, the reality of foreign aid is much more complicated than you imply here. Public and private sector approaches are both used, with the goals of being most beneficial and least disruptive. <cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>I actually think that massive public sector foreign aid is far more intellectually honest than open borders even though I don't support it. Kids who physically are taken here shouldn't receive help before the countless others who aren't taken here if we owe Central America something.</quote> This is an interesting idea, but I still think it's important to humanely handle people who show up at our border, and its also just pragmatic. The goal (or at least my goal) is to help the most people, everywhere, so I'm not going to start by ignoring those who are easiest to reach. <cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>When you say, "completely close the border" do you mean "enforce border laws"?</quote> If we want to enforce border laws, and we should, let's do it right and not criminally prosecute everyone who presents at a port of entry seeking asylum. Because that's not what US or international laws we have thus far respected say should happen. I may have taken "completely close the border" from someone else's post, or just from conservative rhetoric I have seen elsewhere. I didn't mean to attribute that idea to you, my bad. --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 1 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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