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Topic	playing through mass effect again
ParanoidObsessive 07/06/18 12:13:39 PM #26:	Krazy_Kirby posted... in da 2 you do get locked out of some dialogue options if you pick the complete opposite multiple times Yeah, but it's all minor stuff. Like being able to intimidate a dock worker into helping you if you have an Aggressive personality, but not with Diplomatic or Charming. While a Charming Hawke can distract guards later in the same mission by saying there's a warehouse fire, but Diplomatic and Aggressive can't. Most of it is minor dialogue shifts at best, and even when it has a tangible effect it's usually minor and has no effect on the ending of any given quest. In ME2 you can literally ruin the ending of certain major quest-lines and get multiple companions straight-up killed (up to ruining quests in ME3 as well), solely because you didn't maximize your Paragon or Renegade points enough to swing crucial dialogue branches. More specifically, not being able to persuade Miranda and Jack to put aside their differences likely lowers your combat readiness score enough that you might lose a squadmate in the Hold the Line segment of the final battle. But Tali's the real problem - without relatively high Paragon or Renegade it's difficult to both keep her loyal AND part of the Quarian fleet, which locks you out of being able to make peace between the Quarians and Geth in ME3. As does not being able to persuade Tali and Legion to compromise when they fight, because both pretty much NEED to be loyal to give you enough persuasion points in the final choice to sway both sides. And all three of those persuade dialogues are pretty close to being 90/10 requirements. If you're, say, 80% Paragon and 20% Renegade, you're basically going to fail them. It's made worse by the fact that those dialogues are calculated by total possible points at the time you speak to them, so those persuades actually become harder the later into the game you do them. Ultimately, either picking dialogue choices or doing interrupts from both alignments, or even picking more neutral options when available, can screw you over. Nade Duck posted... come to think of it, i did check the volus/elcor embassy and saw a keeper terminal there, but there was no keeper. so yeah i think the game really did bug out on me. That's the one then. MYSTERY SOLVED. ~puffs on pipe contentedly~ --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:904594237] in playing th... [t:76763350]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>in da 2 you do get locked out of some dialogue options if you pick the complete opposite multiple times</quote> Yeah, but it's all minor stuff. Like being able to intimidate a dock worker into helping you if you have an Aggressive personality, but not with Diplomatic or Charming. While a Charming Hawke can distract guards later in the same mission by saying there's a warehouse fire, but Diplomatic and Aggressive can't. Most of it is minor dialogue shifts at best, and even when it has a tangible effect it's usually minor and has no effect on the ending of any given quest. In ME2 you can literally ruin the ending of certain major quest-lines and get multiple companions straight-up killed (up to ruining quests in ME3 as well), solely because you didn't maximize your Paragon or Renegade points enough to swing crucial dialogue branches. More specifically, not being able to persuade Miranda and Jack to put aside their differences likely lowers your combat readiness score enough that you might lose a squadmate in the Hold the Line segment of the final battle. But Tali's the real problem - without relatively high Paragon or Renegade it's difficult to both keep her loyal AND part of the Quarian fleet, which locks you out of being able to make peace between the Quarians and Geth in ME3. As does not being able to persuade Tali and Legion to compromise when they fight, because both pretty much NEED to be loyal to give you enough persuasion points in the final choice to sway both sides. And all three of those persuade dialogues are pretty close to being 90/10 requirements. If you're, say, 80% Paragon and 20% Renegade, you're basically going to fail them. It's made worse by the fact that those dialogues are calculated by total possible points at the time you speak to them, so those persuades actually become harder the later into the game you do them. Ultimately, either picking dialogue choices or doing interrupts from both alignments, or even picking more neutral options when available, can screw you over. <cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote>come to think of it, i did check the volus/elcor embassy and saw a keeper terminal there, but there was no keeper. so yeah i think the game really did bug out on me.</quote> That's the one then. MYSTERY SOLVED. ~puffs on pipe contentedly~ --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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