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Topic	Do you like this person: Chris Hansen
Zeus 07/10/18 6:26:22 PM #17:	No, he was profiteering on what amounted to entrapment. Same as shows like trap car, etc (although I loved the clip where a kid knew it was the trap car and took it for a joyride anyway). Even cops -- which doesn't involve entrapment -- is still pretty fucked up for both profiting off this shit and helping hardcore offenders find ways to beat the system. Also, once again posting the MadTV skit, which one of my favorites from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUcw7XIWISI" data-time=" The same character was also used in at least two other skits (also hilarious), where he'd incriminate himself while reporting crimes. TES_Nut posted... As a direct result of Chris Hansen exposing him. Not defending the molester but he isn't much better. And since it's still early in the topic might as well trow out a pedophile=\=child molester. It's weird that you'd draw a distinction there but call somebody who hadn't molested anybody a molester. faramir77 posted... Why am I not surprised we have people here that dislike a guy that outed dozens of pedophiles that were ready and willing to act on their sick fantasies? You guys realize that this wasn't entrapment, right? They went into chatrooms making a decoy account that clearly stated they were a child and they NEVER initiated any conversations or any sexual references. Still entrapment. They entered chatrooms under false pretenses and lied about their identities specifically to trap suspects. And, in some cases, the variable AoC laws from state to state likely confused at least some of the perps considering that 16 and 17 is legal in some places but not others. More importantly, most of these guys had no priors and, as such, were unlikely to have actually managed to get that far with a real girl. And the way the system was set up it wasn't geared to catch the egregious offenders who would lie about their ages (claiming to be a minor), etc. faramir77 posted... 4. Actually fucking GOING to the house. Except they didn't actually need to go into the house to be arrested. If they skipped the meet-up or decided to just drive past because they had last second thoughts, the cops still went after them. faramir77 posted... And some of you guys are sympathizing with them? Considering that the false ages were often 16 or 17 -- which is the AoC throughout most developed nations -- I'm not sure how much luck you'll have trying to get people outraged over this. (In fact, the only people really outraged are the same group that would be outraged if it was an 18 y/o with an older male.) However, even if the false ages were younger, that's still literally entrapment. For the most part, it's just catching people who would have probably never done any otherwise. So it really comes down to whether you believe in proactive policing measures which, generally speaking, are pretty fucked up and a clear civil liberties violation. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:904842651] in Do you lik... [t:76794708]...</cite> <quote>No, he was profiteering on what amounted to entrapment. Same as shows like trap car, etc (although I loved the clip where a kid knew it was the trap car and took it for a joyride anyway). Even cops -- which doesn't involve entrapment -- is still pretty fucked up for both profiting off this shit and helping hardcore offenders find ways to beat the system. Also, once again posting the MadTV skit, which one of my favorites from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUcw7XIWISI" data-time=" The same character was also used in at least two other skits (also hilarious), where he'd incriminate himself while reporting crimes. <cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>As a direct result of Chris Hansen exposing him. Not defending the molester but he isn't much better. And since it's still early in the topic might as well trow out a pedophile=\=child molester.</quote> It's weird that you'd draw a distinction there but call somebody who hadn't molested anybody a molester. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Why am I not surprised we have people here that dislike a guy that outed dozens of pedophiles that were ready and willing to act on their sick fantasies? You guys realize that this wasn't entrapment, right? They went into chatrooms making a decoy account that clearly stated they were a child and they NEVER initiated any conversations or any sexual references.</quote> Still entrapment. They entered chatrooms under false pretenses and lied about their identities specifically to trap suspects. And, in some cases, the variable AoC laws from state to state likely confused at least some of the perps considering that 16 and 17 is legal in some places but not others. More importantly, most of these guys had no priors and, as such, were unlikely to have actually managed to get that far with a real girl. And the way the system was set up it wasn't geared to catch the egregious offenders who would lie about their ages (claiming to be a minor), etc. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>4. Actually fucking GOING to the house. </quote> Except they didn't actually need to go into the house to be arrested. If they skipped the meet-up or decided to just drive past because they had last second thoughts, the cops still went after them. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>And some of you guys are sympathizing with them? </quote> Considering that the false ages were often 16 or 17 -- which is the AoC throughout most developed nations -- I'm not sure how much luck you'll have trying to get people outraged over this. (In fact, the only people really outraged are the same group that would be outraged if it was an 18 y/o with an older male.) However, even if the false ages were younger, that's still literally entrapment. For the most part, it's just catching people who would have probably never done any otherwise. So it really comes down to whether you believe in proactive policing measures which, generally speaking, are pretty fucked up and a clear civil liberties violation. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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