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gunplagirl
07/25/18 5:24:28 PM
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SSJGodMawile posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Okay so here's what you misunderstand. It's not that the workers would have things taken from them, it would be the higher ups who don't actually work but have appropriated money from the workers.

Ever see that pizza example? It's like, a worker can make 20 pizzas an hour and after the cost of materials and money towards the building rental fee, plus the worker's wage for that hour, it takes 5 pizzas sold to start seeing a profit. Meanwhile the franchise owner can simply pay the bills yet will collect the full profit of at least 7 of the 20 pizzas produced every hour by the worker. But the worker will never be compensated more than 1.5 pizzas an hour.

Basically, we'd stop letting the property manager who only owns the means of production extract the surplus value for their own gain, and reintroduce it to the workers so that they may see the fruits of their labors.

you apparently don't even understand your own ideology

under communism, private property is not a thing, so yes, everyone, including the working class, will have their property forcibly taken from them by an authoritarian government

what would you prefer:
a) a system where the poor have safety nets, the majority of people are living comfortable middle-class lives and people are able to start their own businesses and maybe become rich, or
b) a system where literally everyone is poor, starving and without any rights?

exploitation in the workplace is absolutely a problem, and capitalism needs regulation, but your communist utopia isn't the fucking answer because literally nobody but middle class NEETs and rich champagne socialists actually want it


Yes, private property is a thing under communism. Your shoes, your bed, your car? Those are yours. That factory that produces goods that result in tens of millions of profits each year? That's not private property.

Nice false dichotomy.

And another nice false dichotomy.
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