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nicklebro posted...

Again, the Brock case doesn't help your argument because even if your 100% baseless speculation that he won't reoffend is true (I'll restate it here, you're trying to pass off a guess as a fact, stop it) its also true that his light sentence is going to lead to other people committing the same crime because the deterrence of a lengthy sentence wasn't given. You're also claiming to be able to read the minds of the people who voted that judge out.

Basically there's just way too much wrong with your entire argument for it to be accepted as possible, let alone plausible. You're making too many baseless assertions and actually go so far as to act as if there's a chance retribution benefits society more than deterrence. You know what those rape victims want more than lengthy sentences for their attackers? To not have been raped in the first place. Deterrence actually does that, retribution does not.

I'm not reading the minds of people who voted the judge out. There was a specific recall campaign to vote him out for that decision.

There is nothing baseless about the claim that Brock is deterred from reoffending. Most sex offenders do not reoffend, and he has not up to this point. There is no good reason to believe that he is different from most sex offenders, unless you can offer one.

You are also offering no evidence that a lengthier sentence would deter him more or that similarly situated criminals are not sufficiently deterred by the threat of a 6 month sentence and years of probation. That is a statement that requires evidence, since you want to raise the bar of evidentiary support in this discussion so high.

Again, retribution and deterrence are not completely at odds. It is impossible to have a retribution focused system, where deterrence is not a primary by-product. So yes, punishing rapists in proportion with their terrible crimes, will be just as deterring as a system where deterrence is the primary goal. The main difference is that will usually punish beyond what is necessary for deterrence.