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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 192: Manafort and a Storm
Inviso
09/19/18 12:17:56 AM
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HarrietTubgirl posted...
Inviso posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...
Inviso, if I were to call the cops and accuse you of raping me, would you still insist that I should be believed? Why give the same credence to this woman?


Of course you wouldn't be believed, because unlike HER, you're full of shit and deliberately trying to make a political point, and you've admitted to it via this hypothetical. I give credence to her because there is no real reason for her to lie NOW (there's no political gain since your party GETS TO CONFIRM THE NOMINEE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S KAVANAUGH OR NOT), nor was there a reason for her to lie back in 2012, when Kavanaugh wasn't even fucking nominated for the Supreme Court at the time.

So you won't presume innocence as long as the accuser has "no reason to lie."

I am so glad you are and will never be in any position of power.


Get this through your head: sexual assault is not murder, where one person is dead and there is a murderer to apprehend. Barring instances in which a rapist is caught in the act and has his crime reported, sexual assault is pretty much always a he-said/she-said scenario. And the problem with that is that presuming innocence on the part of the rapist means you are therefore accusing the accuser of a crime (filing a false police report and/or perjury). Which in turn means you're not affording THEM the "innocent until proven guilty" standard, because you've already deemed them guilty, in order to deem the accused to be innocent. Bringing up "innocent until proven guilty" is just a cop-out way of saying "I believe the accused rapist over the alleged victim, to the point where I'm willing to say SHE'S the real criminal."
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