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Lopen 10/25/18 12:18:04 PM #134:	Paratroopa1 posted... PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Ashethan posted... Actually, I find it kind of offensive when people keep saying "Being gay isn't a choice". Because: Even if it were, that still wouldn't make discriminating against them okay. It's like saying there's something inherently wrong with being gay, but it's okay only because they're born that way. When it should be okay regardless of if they were born that way or not. I don't think the implication is intentional or meant. So I wouldn't normally address this. But in this case, I'm going to. It doesn't matter if being gay is a choice or not. "They can't change!" is kind of suggesting there's something that needs to be changed. That there's something wrong. When there's nothing wrong. Not just because they were born that way (appeal to nature) but because there's nothing wrong with it period. Can you just admit you're being silly instead of trying to find new and inventive ways to be outraged? actually ashethan's one of the only people I've seen who actually gets it I feel like what Ashethan's doing is the opposite of "getting it" because this kind of nitpicking of "you aren't being accepting in the right way!" kinda does make you come off as finding new and inventive ways to be outraged, which does much more harm than what little good clarifying that one detail does. Particularly because in many cases you're probably correcting to the choir. I mean I get what you're saying but it does come off as rather silly. Consider the way a conversation between random person and Ashethan would flow. A random person can't say being gay isn't a choice, and they can't say it is a choice either. To placate Ashethan, you must specifically say "it's not choice (but it doesn't matter even if it was)" which I mean, you can't really assume people aren't thinking the parened part and just omitting it because they're not super concerned with not offending Ashethan. To me it just feels like "you need to treat my cause like it's the most important thing in the world and get every minute detail right" rather than a meaningful thing to be offended about. Be offended about things that are actually offensive rather than you just projecting a lack of understanding onto people. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:911141158] in Hair Color... [t:77122027]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ashethan posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I find it kind of offensive when people keep saying "Being gay isn't a choice". Because: Even if it were, that still wouldn't make discriminating against them okay. It's like saying there's something inherently wrong with being gay, but it's okay only because they're born that way. When it should be okay regardless of if they were born that way or not. I don't think the implication is intentional or meant. So I wouldn't normally address this. But in this case, I'm going to. It doesn't matter if being gay is a choice or not. "They can't change!" is kind of suggesting there's something that needs to be changed. That there's something wrong. When there's nothing wrong. Not just because they were born that way (appeal to nature) but because there's nothing wrong with it period.</quote> Can you just admit you're being silly instead of trying to find new and inventive ways to be outraged?</quote> actually ashethan's one of the only people I've seen who actually gets it</quote> I feel like what Ashethan's doing is the opposite of "getting it" because this kind of nitpicking of "you aren't being accepting in the right way!" kinda does make you come off as finding new and inventive ways to be outraged, which does much more harm than what little good clarifying that one detail does. Particularly because in many cases you're probably correcting to the choir. I mean I get what you're saying but it does come off as rather silly. Consider the way a conversation between random person and Ashethan would flow. A random person can't say being gay isn't a choice, and they can't say it is a choice either. To placate Ashethan, you must specifically say "it's not choice (but it doesn't matter even if it was)" which I mean, you can't really assume people aren't thinking the parened part and just omitting it because they're not super concerned with not offending Ashethan. To me it just feels like "you need to treat my cause like it's the most important thing in the world and get every minute detail right" rather than a meaningful thing to be offended about. Be offended about things that are actually offensive rather than you just projecting a lack of understanding onto people. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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