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keyblader1985 posted...

When I visit discussion threads here for various comic book shows, I see almost nothing but (unwarranted) vehement hatred of many female protagonists. I don't have much reason to believe it would be much different for the actual comics.

Overlooking that the writing can be dicey for many female leads on superhero shows (especially when the character is kinda shoehorned in as a gender-diverse sidekick), there are *countless* popular superheroines who have had phenomenal comic runs. And, rather annoyingly, many of the biggest names *never* received shows. More importantly, comic fans are chronic complainers so it rarely has anything to do with gender or race.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

I get that the X-Men were always an allegory for the civil Rights movement, but on the one hand you have Cassandra, Barbara, and Catherine... meanwhile Marvel makes Jane Foster Thor.

Mutants have been a pretty blank allegory, useful for fitting whatever theme people choose to write.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

In both cases, the companies are just desperate because comic sales are dying and they need to find new readers wherever they can - and pandering to minorities who previously weren't strong comic buyers seems like an obvious method for doing so. So you get Marvel pushing Black Panther while DC is soaking up praise for Wonder Woman in the film side, while in comics Marvel is pushing black teen girl Iron Man and lady Thor (with the narrator straight-up quoting SJW memes) and making Falcon into the new Captain America, but DC is pushing new Hispanic and Arabic Green Lanterns, and randomly creating "African Batman" and Chinese Superman.

The real problem is, both companies have sort of learned that, while SJWs are incredibly vocal about things they hate, when you do the things they claim to like, they won't actually BUY your books. So Marvel's already officially backed off on the Internet pandering, while DC has sort of quietly phased most of it out. But there's still a push to try and capture new fans, which is why a lot of comic stuff gets retconned just to fit better into the continuity of the popular movies, and why there's still a push in both comics and movies to appeal to the massive Asian audience, and why they'll still push the narrative of how progressive movies like Wonder Woman and Black Panther are, in the hopes that they can parlay those things into future success.

A lot of people like to ascribe ideology to these companies, or say things like "Well, of course stupid younger writers living in a Twitter/Tumblr world are going to reflect those views into their writing", but ultimately, most of this stuff is purely motivated by money, pure and simple. If either company thinks pandering to a specific group is going to dramatically increase their sales, they're going to do it, period.

It's a shame that these companies couldn't wise up sooner to the fact that SJWs migrate from thing to thing in a constant attempt to validate their self-worth by pushing meaningless campaigns that only annoy actual fans.

Mead posted...

This board is so obsessed with sjws

And people living in Mexico are so obsessed with cartels.
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