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Topic	It's weird how smug Republicans are about losing the House
s0nicfan 11/09/18 6:19:58 PM #39:	Anteaterking posted... s0nicfan posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election#Historical_record_of_midterm Midterm elections are sometimes regarded as a referendum on the sitting president's and/or incumbent party's performance.[4][5] The party of the incumbent president tends to lose ground during midterm elections: since WWII the President's party has lost an average 26 seats in the House, and an average four seats in the Senate; moreover, in only five of those has the President's party gained seats in either house and of those only one has seen the President's party gain seats in both houses. Trump lost about the average in the house and gained 3 instead of losing 4 in the senate. Smugness likely comes from the recognition that if this was meant to be a referendum on Trump, that the country as a whole is a lot less dissatisfied than Democrats would want people to believe, which bodes well for 2020 when the ruling party often fares better. Basically a loss of seats was almost guaranteed, regardless of president, so losing less than expected and actually gaining in the senate (which is uncommon) is a positive sign in terms of overall party appeal. VictimComplex already addressed some of this, but I'd also like to point out that "Only 5 times since WWII" is about 25% of the time. Sort of. I pulled my numbers from wikipedia (-29 in the house) so I'm not sure where he's getting 35-40 but I could be totally wrong on that. I also said it was "uncommon" which seems fair for 25%, but if you have some other word you'd prefer I have used I'm fine using that too. It doesn't really change my point, though, that he's not really that far off from average and outperformed predictions in terms of expectations for this midterm, which is a good sign in general for republicans looking forward to 2020. You could argue that high participation by dems is "proof" that they really hate him, but I don't think anyone was really debating it. I'm also not taking a hard stance here on calling this a "victory." I was simply highlighting why some people might be acting smug as the TC asked. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:912126375] in It's weird... [t:77187155]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election#Historical_record_of_midterm <quote>Midterm elections are sometimes regarded as a referendum on the sitting president's and/or incumbent party's performance.[4][5] The party of the incumbent president tends to lose ground during midterm elections: since WWII the President's party has lost an average 26 seats in the House, and an average four seats in the Senate; moreover, in only five of those has the President's party gained seats in either house and of those only one has seen the President's party gain seats in both houses.</quote> Trump lost about the average in the house and gained 3 instead of losing 4 in the senate. Smugness likely comes from the recognition that if this was meant to be a referendum on Trump, that the country as a whole is a lot less dissatisfied than Democrats would want people to believe, which bodes well for 2020 when the ruling party often fares better. Basically a loss of seats was almost guaranteed, regardless of president, so losing less than expected and actually gaining in the senate (which is uncommon) is a positive sign in terms of overall party appeal.</quote> VictimComplex already addressed some of this, but I'd also like to point out that "Only 5 times since WWII" is about 25% of the time.</quote> Sort of. I pulled my numbers from wikipedia (-29 in the house) so I'm not sure where he's getting 35-40 but I could be totally wrong on that. I also said it was "uncommon" which seems fair for 25%, but if you have some other word you'd prefer I have used I'm fine using that too. It doesn't really change my point, though, that he's not really that far off from average and outperformed predictions in terms of expectations for this midterm, which is a good sign in general for republicans looking forward to 2020. You could argue that high participation by dems is "proof" that they really hate him, but I don't think anyone was really debating it. I'm also not taking a hard stance here on calling this a "victory." I was simply highlighting why some people might be acting smug as the TC asked. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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