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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 208 is Canceled Due to Rain
Suprak the Stud 11/18/18 7:57:09 PM #157:	xp1337 posted... Jakyl25 posted... OMG. Bumping the topic to keep it from purging Are politics done?! i have reached the next level i had a dream yesterday where i was arguing in this topic that ohio had gone red and shouldn't be considered a real swing state going forward so why bother posting here in reality I actually 100% agree with your dream self! Democrats should abandon Ohio in the near future. Total number of counties swung this election: 0. The state is badly gerrymandered, sure, but democrats didn't win the popular vote in the state either. Governorship went to Republicans, fairly easily. Neither candidate was exceptional, and this was essentially generic R vs generic D. In a year when democrats won governorships in Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, and KANSAS, they lost Ohio by 4 points. They were closer in Florida, Georgia, Iowa, and South Dakota. Dems flipped the senate seat in Arizona (and now have 5 in the house compared to 4 for republicans). Out of all the results for democrats this election, the three that stand out the worst and the two in Florida and the Ohio governorship. I actually thought early on in the night it was going to be terrible for democrats. But they did great almost everywhere, in local and statewide elections. Better than they should've, basically everywhere. Out of every governor race, the two that did the worst were Hubbel (from IA who was going against a fairly popular incumbent) and Cordray (who was going for an open seat). https://twitter.com/perrybaconjr/status/1063076005445799936 They won the senate race easily, but Brown is a moderate, popular incumbent. Unless democrats plan on running him and only him, I would abandon Ohio in 2020 to focus on...like 8 other states first. Top tier targets: MI, WI, PA Next tier: AZ, IA, FL, NC Hail Mary territory: GA, NE second Crazy town dream land: OH, TX (Trump won Ohio by 8.13. He won Texas by 8.99. You could actually make an argument TX is a better target than OH this election. But both of these are wastes of time!) So, yeah. I've been thinking about this a lot since election night. I think Ohio is going the way of Missouri. It isn't quite there yet, but it is slipping and I don't see much hope of it being a true swing state. At this point, if a dem wins Ohio it is a landslide. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:912640058] in Politics C... [t:77200372]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>OMG. Bumping the topic to keep it from purging Are politics done?!</quote> i have reached the next level i had a dream yesterday where i was arguing in this topic that ohio had gone red and shouldn't be considered a real swing state going forward so why bother posting here in reality</quote> I actually 100% agree with your dream self! Democrats should abandon Ohio in the near future. Total number of counties swung this election: 0. The state is badly gerrymandered, sure, but democrats didn't win the popular vote in the state either. Governorship went to Republicans, fairly easily. Neither candidate was exceptional, and this was essentially generic R vs generic D. In a year when democrats won governorships in Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, and KANSAS, they lost Ohio by 4 points. They were closer in Florida, Georgia, Iowa, and South Dakota. Dems flipped the senate seat in Arizona (and now have 5 in the house compared to 4 for republicans). Out of all the results for democrats this election, the three that stand out the worst and the two in Florida and the Ohio governorship. I actually thought early on in the night it was going to be terrible for democrats. But they did great almost everywhere, in local and statewide elections. Better than they should've, basically everywhere. Out of every governor race, the two that did the worst were Hubbel (from IA who was going against a fairly popular incumbent) and Cordray (who was going for an open seat). https://twitter.com/perrybaconjr/status/1063076005445799936 They won the senate race easily, but Brown is a moderate, popular incumbent. Unless democrats plan on running him and only him, I would abandon Ohio in 2020 to focus on...like 8 other states first. Top tier targets: MI, WI, PA Next tier: AZ, IA, FL, NC Hail Mary territory: GA, NE second Crazy town dream land: OH, TX (Trump won Ohio by 8.13. He won Texas by 8.99. You could actually make an argument TX is a better target than OH this election. But both of these are wastes of time!) So, yeah. I've been thinking about this a lot since election night. I think Ohio is going the way of Missouri. It isn't quite there yet, but it is slipping and I don't see much hope of it being a true swing state. At this point, if a dem wins Ohio it is a landslide. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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