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darkknight109 11/21/18 7:00:59 PM #55:	TheWorstPoster posted... Because telling the Russian President that he would have more flexibility after his election, is absolutely no means for controversy? Not really? It's impolitic, but Obama was a sitting president stating a matter of facts that did not have any impact on the election - nothing in what he did was in any way illegal. He was not soliciting or accepting aid from Russia, as Trump's campaign is accused of doing. If the Trump tower meeting between Don Jr. and the Russian lawyer went down as advertised, that is absolutely a crime. See the difference? TheWorstPoster posted... There is absolutely NOTHING about Russia colluding with Trump, or interfering with the election, until after the results came in. You already disproved this point yourself, with video evidence no less, so I see no reason to kick the dead horse any further. TheWorstPoster posted... And, once again, you are ignorant, and are making blatantly racist insinuations and assumptions. No, I'm just restating what the Republicans have done every time they've made one of these laws. Which, granted, was blatantly racist, so you did at least get that part right. TheWorstPoster posted... There are numerous forms of IDs, such as driver's license, state ID, work ID, passports, birth certificates, all of which would be considered valid, and at least one of which would be used on a near daily basis, in every day situations involving transactions. Don't know about you, but I do not have any form of ID that I use on a daily basis. Ignoring that, though, there's problems with every single thing that you've posted: -Driver's license: not everyone drives, particularly people who live in cities with good transit systems. Drivers licenses aren't free either, which would risk disenfranchising the poor. -State ID and Passports: Not universal and not free -Work ID: Not all workplaces have ID cards, and even if they did there is no QA on them, so there is absolutely no way they would be accepted as valid pieces of ID. -Birth Certificates: Are not ID cards, what the fuck. There is no identifying information on these cards beyond your name - no photo, no biometrics, nothing. It's a ID on par with a piece of mail that has your name on it. Keep in mind, voting is a right, not a privilege - putting up financial barriers to voting, no matter how minor, is an infringement on those rights. More to the point, you're completely ignoring what I've been saying. The Republicans choose what forms of ID are valid and they tend to choose them based on which ones are most likely to disenfranchise voters who don't vote for them. That's not my opinion, by the way, that's directly pulled from North Carolina's Republican-created Voter ID law which, as previously mentioned, was overturned for being - wait for it - really fucking racist. That's why I find your accusations of racism so comical - you're completely missing the fact that the party you so adore is committing far worse right under your nose, yet I'm the racist one for explaining it to you. Want a Voter ID law that works? Create a national ID card, issued free of charge to all valid voters. Bam - problem solved. Except that will never happen because Republicans and the far-right wing of their party hate national registrations, even though the Social Security has been used as a (hilariously flawed) version of this for decades to get around conservatives' obstinance. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:912818371] in Trump unve... [t:77218695]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>Because telling the Russian President that he would have more flexibility after his election, is absolutely no means for controversy?</quote> Not really? It's impolitic, but Obama was a sitting president stating a matter of facts that did not have any impact on the election - nothing in what he did was in any way illegal. He was not soliciting or accepting aid from Russia, as Trump's campaign is accused of doing. If the Trump tower meeting between Don Jr. and the Russian lawyer went down as advertised, that is absolutely a crime. See the difference? <cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>There is absolutely NOTHING about Russia colluding with Trump, or interfering with the election, until after the results came in. </quote> You already disproved this point yourself, with video evidence no less, so I see no reason to kick the dead horse any further. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>And, once again, you are ignorant, and are making blatantly racist insinuations and assumptions. </quote> No, I'm just restating what the Republicans have done every time they've made one of these laws. Which, granted, was blatantly racist, so you did at least get that part right. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>There are numerous forms of IDs, such as driver's license, state ID, work ID, passports, birth certificates, all of which would be considered valid, and at least one of which would be used on a near daily basis, in every day situations involving transactions. </quote> Don't know about you, but I do not have any form of ID that I use on a daily basis. Ignoring that, though, there's problems with every single thing that you've posted: -Driver's license: not everyone drives, particularly people who live in cities with good transit systems. Drivers licenses aren't free either, which would risk disenfranchising the poor. -State ID and Passports: Not universal and not free -Work ID: Not all workplaces have ID cards, and even if they did there is no QA on them, so there is absolutely no way they would be accepted as valid pieces of ID. -Birth Certificates: Are not ID cards, what the fuck. There is no identifying information on these cards beyond your name - no photo, no biometrics, nothing. It's a ID on par with a piece of mail that has your name on it. Keep in mind, voting is a right, not a privilege - putting up financial barriers to voting, no matter how minor, is an infringement on those rights. More to the point, you're completely ignoring what I've been saying. The Republicans choose what forms of ID are valid and they tend to choose them based on which ones are most likely to disenfranchise voters who don't vote for them. That's not my opinion, by the way, that's directly pulled from North Carolina's Republican-created Voter ID law which, as previously mentioned, was overturned for being - wait for it - really fucking racist. That's why I find your accusations of racism so comical - you're completely missing the fact that the party you so adore is committing far worse right under your nose, yet I'm the racist one for explaining it to you. Want a Voter ID law that works? Create a national ID card, issued free of charge to all valid voters. Bam - problem solved. Except that will never happen because Republicans and the far-right wing of their party hate national registrations, even though the Social Security has been used as a (hilariously flawed) version of this for decades to get around conservatives' obstinance. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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