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Topic	Bethesda are being sued for refusing to give out refunds for Fallout 76
GrindcoreShark 11/26/18 8:47:45 PM #49:	Darmik posted... That would be up to Zenimax. Bethesda Game Studios don't run the entire company. EA wanted Bioware to use Frostbite and that didn't work out for them. This is not even comparable like at all, the team that made ME:A was a brand new team made up of people straight out of college unfamiliar the Frostbite Engine make a game it wasn't designed for. Id Software have literal tech wizards on their hands even with Carmack gone and wouldn't have these problems. Darmik posted... I don't think any of those games do the same thing as Elder Scrolls or Fallout anyway. How's the mod support for example? I haven't heard anything. No shit, that's why they're all BASED off Id tech, can you learn to fucking read? Have you not heard modders BEGGING Bethesda to use a new engine? You can't leverage them in favor of Bethesda's incompetence in this argument Darmik posted... Making an entire new engine for Elder Scrolls and Fallout isn't some easy endeavour. Game engines aren't just a one size fits all thing. I wasn't aware these were noobs who've never made a game before and not skilled game developers with decades of experience working for AAA developers and publishers under their belts, oh wait... Darmik posted... I never said they did the same thing. Epic license out their engine to third parties. It's a big part of their business. That's not what I meant and you know it. Epic actually upgraded their engine accordingly for each generation of consoles instead of incremental upgrades that age poorly like what we're seeing now with Fallout 76. Why must you endlessly split hairs for the sake of exonerating a corporation? --- https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/2aSpfEp https://imgur.com/hHqVnxE https://imgur.com/cxqXCmv <cite>GrindcoreShark posted [p:913092949] in Bethesda a... [t:77242162]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>That would be up to Zenimax. Bethesda Game Studios don't run the entire company. EA wanted Bioware to use Frostbite and that didn't work out for them. </quote> This is not even comparable like at all, the team that made ME:A was a brand new team made up of people straight out of college unfamiliar the Frostbite Engine make a game it wasn't designed for. Id Software have literal tech wizards on their hands even with Carmack gone and wouldn't have these problems. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think any of those games do the same thing as Elder Scrolls or Fallout anyway. How's the mod support for example? I haven't heard anything. </quote> No shit, that's why they're all BASED off Id tech, can you learn to fucking read? Have you not heard modders BEGGING Bethesda to use a new engine? You can't leverage them in favor of Bethesda's incompetence in this argument <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Making an entire new engine for Elder Scrolls and Fallout isn't some easy endeavour. Game engines aren't just a one size fits all thing. </quote> I wasn't aware these were noobs who've never made a game before and not skilled game developers with decades of experience working for AAA developers and publishers under their belts, oh wait... <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> I never said they did the same thing. Epic license out their engine to third parties. It's a big part of their business.</quote> That's not what I meant and you know it. Epic actually upgraded their engine accordingly for each generation of consoles instead of incremental upgrades that age poorly like what we're seeing now with Fallout 76. Why must you endlessly split hairs for the sake of exonerating a corporation? --- https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/2aSpfEp https://imgur.com/hHqVnxE https://imgur.com/cxqXCmv</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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