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KokoroAkechi 12/03/18 11:40:26 AM #428:	metroid composite posted... KokoroAkechi posted... Man screw shudderwock. Go keep losing to meme decks. (Admittedly tess rogue should naturally have a strong matchup against it) Tess Rogue should nearly always win against Shudderwock, yeah. TBH, Shudderwock struggles just to beat plain ol' Fal'dorei Strider. If you land a bunch of spiders, they can't clear with volcano, and Shudderwock is basically volcano: the deck. Spiders are also 4/4 so they don't die to Hagatha. There's just no easy answer to spiders. Add in Academic Espionage as well, and yeah, Wock only has like...7 big removal spells/clears; they will run out. Ae rogue is like significantly worse than normal miracle with spiders in the matchup. Ae is just too slow if you want consistency a lot of times or too luck sack. I have hemetvin my version specifically to try to turbo to espionage cards (and to get a lot of spiders). You also lose all the burst because ae packages often drop cards like Leroy from their lists since more of their deck has to be either dedicated to pushing into the later stages of the game or just has to be more defensive. Like if my opponent gets shudderwock off by card 20 I think the chances of me winning are below 50% with tess rogue a lot of the time. If I'm normal spider I can still win because of potential in hand burst with Leroy and such. Spider rogue is only provably a 60/40 or so given both players are good and like I said tess rogue is a significantly worse deck and the strengyhs it gains in the matchup dont make up for the losses. Im not actually convinced my opponents have been good either. Its hard to tell when every shudderwock shaman basically does the same thing. Tess rogues real good matchup is actually odd warrior --- Kokoro's Anime Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaIA0gY11FQ_Zh6kLSam5OA Updated: July 27th, 2016. <cite>KokoroAkechi posted [p:913466932] in Hearthston... [t:77161384]...</cite> <quote><cite>metroid composite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KokoroAkechi posted...</cite> <quote>Man screw shudderwock. Go keep losing to meme decks. (Admittedly tess rogue should naturally have a strong matchup against it)</quote> Tess Rogue should nearly always win against Shudderwock, yeah. TBH, Shudderwock struggles just to beat plain ol' Fal'dorei Strider. If you land a bunch of spiders, they can't clear with volcano, and Shudderwock is basically volcano: the deck. Spiders are also 4/4 so they don't die to Hagatha. There's just no easy answer to spiders. Add in Academic Espionage as well, and yeah, Wock only has like...7 big removal spells/clears; they will run out.</quote> Ae rogue is like significantly worse than normal miracle with spiders in the matchup. Ae is just too slow if you want consistency a lot of times or too luck sack. I have hemetvin my version specifically to try to turbo to espionage cards (and to get a lot of spiders). You also lose all the burst because ae packages often drop cards like Leroy from their lists since more of their deck has to be either dedicated to pushing into the later stages of the game or just has to be more defensive. Like if my opponent gets shudderwock off by card 20 I think the chances of me winning are below 50% with tess rogue a lot of the time. If I'm normal spider I can still win because of potential in hand burst with Leroy and such. Spider rogue is only provably a 60/40 or so given both players are good and like I said tess rogue is a significantly worse deck and the strengyhs it gains in the matchup dont make up for the losses. Im not actually convinced my opponents have been good either. Its hard to tell when every shudderwock shaman basically does the same thing. Tess rogues real good matchup is actually odd warrior --- Kokoro's Anime Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaIA0gY11FQ_Zh6kLSam5OA Updated: July 27th, 2016.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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