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Topic	Hardcore FE players that hate on Casual Mode are the worst.
Distant_Rainbow 12/18/18 1:15:26 AM #158:	Tyranthraxus posted... The stamina system isn't the same penalty as Ogre Battle has. It's complete different paradigm in penalties that affects class changes. Who you can recruit and what areas you can access. You need to use some characters to fight others in order to recruit them however if you overuse those characters your reputation and charisma tank meaning you miss out on secret areas and can't upgrade to high class units. But if you underuse the units they run a very real risk of dying when you're trying to recruit whoever you're fighting. Again, it's not bad design. It's good design that was removed to appeal to a casual crowd of modern gamers. Apart from whatever that charisma and reputation stuff is, sounds similar enough. You can't expect Fire Emblem to approach that concept the exact same way as a different series. And in any case, in your example there's actually a reputation and charisma system that the game surely reminds the player to keep high and how to keep it high, or else bad things happen. Not the same thing as Shadow Dragon at all. It does it well? It did nothing, besides set up content behind weird and novel unlock conditions with no indication thereof whatsoever. How the hell is something so counterintuitive and obscure 'good design'? Or do you think the intuitive thing to think when you encounter an ally with bad stats in Fire Emblem is to go *'sure, let's go invest my limited deployment slots to send this guy out to the battlefield just so I can kill him off for shits and giggles'*? That's not intuitive. That's borderline sociopathic. The only thing it won was creativity points. Nobody praised that feature at all. Experts panned it, and beginners didn't even notice it for the most part or panned it as well if they did notice. Small wonder it's the ONLY mechanic that didn't make a return in the Japan-only sequel which utilized the exact same game engine. Everyone realized it was bad. Except you, apparently. --- Link meets Fire Emblem in CYOA: Tales of Elibe! Come read, and find out what happens! Click below! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/468480-fire-emblem/77111212 <cite>Distant_Rainbow posted [p:914315714] in Hardcore F... [t:77311457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>The stamina system isn't the same penalty as Ogre Battle has. It's complete different paradigm in penalties that affects class changes. Who you can recruit and what areas you can access. You need to use some characters to fight others in order to recruit them however if you overuse those characters your reputation and charisma tank meaning you miss out on secret areas and can't upgrade to high class units. But if you underuse the units they run a very real risk of dying when you're trying to recruit whoever you're fighting. Again, it's not bad design. It's good design that was removed to appeal to a casual crowd of modern gamers.</quote> Apart from whatever that charisma and reputation stuff is, sounds similar enough. You can't expect Fire Emblem to approach that concept the exact same way as a different series. And in any case, in your example there's actually a reputation and charisma system that the game surely reminds the player to keep high and how to keep it high, or else bad things happen. Not the same thing as Shadow Dragon at all. It does it well? It did nothing, besides set up content behind weird and novel unlock conditions with no indication thereof whatsoever. How the hell is something so counterintuitive and obscure 'good design'? Or do you think the intuitive thing to think when you encounter an ally with bad stats in Fire Emblem is to go 'sure, let's go invest my limited deployment slots to send this guy out to the battlefield just so I can kill him off for shits and giggles'? That's not intuitive. That's borderline sociopathic. The only thing it won was creativity points. Nobody praised that feature at all. Experts panned it, and beginners didn't even notice it for the most part or panned it as well if they did notice. Small wonder it's the ONLY mechanic that didn't make a return in the Japan-only sequel which utilized the exact same game engine. Everyone realized it was bad. Except you, apparently. --- Link meets Fire Emblem in CYOA: Tales of Elibe! Come read, and find out what happens! Click below! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/468480-fire-emblem/77111212</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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