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TopicC/D: If you're physically capable of working and don't, you don't deserve aid
REMercsChamp
12/24/18 3:11:38 PM
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Completely disagree

I think you deserve a certain amount of guaranteed income just for existing. We have certain basic human rights such as food, clothing, entertainment (netflix etc) that have to be met regardless if we're employed or not.


No one is owed a thing. Poverty is the natural state. Were all born naked and with nothing. There is no right to any of the things you listed, I suggest you study up and learn what positive and negative rights are. The only true rights are property rights, which falls under the banner of negative rights.

We've evolved from that though. Being a part of a community means you help out those less fortunate than yourself.

Even if they're more fortunate I think we should still be helping these guys out. Like people who were born into good families but chose not to work or get an education even into their 30s and now find themselves down on their luck. We should be giving these guys funds as well.

No, see a line should be drawn at people who choose to be in a position to need aid. But people who can't help it? Part of living as a community is helping each other out. Everyone works together. These people who are physically/mentally disabled aren't completely unable to do work either. There definitely are jobs that can accommodate them.

The fucked up thing is that it's NOT people helping each other but every man for himself trying to step over people.

This is why we need to expand this to people who choose not to work and want to just sit around and play video games or whatever. If we exclude them then we're just as bad as we are now. We aren't making progress.

C'mon man, don't troll this. No man is an island, we're all in it together. Business wouldn't survive without customers, none of us on here would be very happy if we had to completely fend for ourselves. Since the first man made a fire and shared it with his buddy we've all been working together for the good of the community. Some members of the community can't contribute as much, and rightly, they won't live in luxury or have as much as their superiors. But no one who puts in effort should be allowed to get dragged behind.

Why can't you see the truth
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