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Topic	Avengers Endgame - spoiler discussion topic 2 (SPOILERS)
CoolCly 05/03/19 3:24:55 PM #275:	TheRock1525 posted... Snrkiko posted... that would have required each stone's location to get a bunch of exposition and some sort of conflict or something to make each stone worth finding. So basically what we got minus time travel plus the possibility of new characters and interactions. this is an extremely short sighted idea - so an overstuffed movie with a million characters needed more characters, which would all require more time to set up to not feel shoehorned in, instead of visiting familiar and well liked characters for interesting new interactions with no necessary set up? Bane_Of_Despair posted... I think the thing about Endgame is that it is pretty much 100% just pure fan service, and while in most cases that's a not great thing it actually works here. After 21 movies it fully justifies and earns its place in reveling in such fan service. I dislike comments like this - "100% just pure fanservice." What does that even mean? Does this mean it's no substance, intended to pander to a fanbase? Cap picking up the hammer was amazing. It's a payoff to all these movies where we've seen his strength of character, combined with the lore and history of Thor's Hammer and those who are worthy. The elevator scene recreates a scene we already liked from Winter Soldier - and references a comic book story that everyone was upset about where Cap was revealed to be a member of Hydra. Tony has a conversation with his dad about fatherhood - something he's been experiencing in this film with his daughter, and his own strained relationship with his dad has been a part of several movies in the MCU before this. All of these can be called "fanservice".... but does that mean it doesn't have substance? Or are these the payoff of long well developed character arcs and scenes? I've seen a lot of people say Endgame is "Just a bunch of fanservice" and it boggles my mind. They are showing tons of awesome scenes that we'd love to see... but they don't do any of it just out of nowhere just to have it in there. It's all the natural result of everything they've done so far in the MCU. It could be "fanservice" in addition to everything else it is, but calling it "just fanservice" triggers the hell out of me. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:921419641] in Avengers E... [t:77680644]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Snrkiko posted...</cite> <quote>that would have required each stone's location to get a bunch of exposition and some sort of conflict or something to make each stone worth finding.</quote> So basically what we got minus time travel plus the possibility of new characters and interactions.</quote> this is an extremely short sighted idea - so an overstuffed movie with a million characters needed more characters, which would all require more time to set up to not feel shoehorned in, instead of visiting familiar and well liked characters for interesting new interactions with no necessary set up? <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted...</cite> <quote>I think the thing about Endgame is that it is pretty much 100% just pure fan service, and while in most cases that's a not great thing it actually works here. After 21 movies it fully justifies and earns its place in reveling in such fan service.</quote> I dislike comments like this - "100% just pure fanservice." What does that even mean? Does this mean it's no substance, intended to pander to a fanbase? Cap picking up the hammer was amazing. It's a payoff to all these movies where we've seen his strength of character, combined with the lore and history of Thor's Hammer and those who are worthy. The elevator scene recreates a scene we already liked from Winter Soldier - and references a comic book story that everyone was upset about where Cap was revealed to be a member of Hydra. Tony has a conversation with his dad about fatherhood - something he's been experiencing in this film with his daughter, and his own strained relationship with his dad has been a part of several movies in the MCU before this. All of these can be called "fanservice".... but does that mean it doesn't have substance? Or are these the payoff of long well developed character arcs and scenes? I've seen a lot of people say Endgame is "Just a bunch of fanservice" and it boggles my mind. They are showing tons of awesome scenes that we'd love to see... but they don't do any of it just out of nowhere just to have it in there. It's all the natural result of everything they've done so far in the MCU. It could be "fanservice" in addition to everything else it is, but calling it "just fanservice" triggers the hell out of me. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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