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Topic	Should comedians be immune from criticism?
legendary_zell 08/28/19 1:49:16 PM #13:	joe40001 posted... legendary_zell posted... I've seen a lot of people recently make the argument that comedians are supposed to be edgy. They're supposed to mock the powerful and tell uncomfortable truths. They're supposed to mock taboos. All well and good. But I've also seen people make the argument that because of this, it's improper to criticize a comedian for their jokes. But it's not obvious at all to me that something being a joke means that it is invalid to question the joke or the comedian. It doesn't seem correct to me. I think the premise and target of a joke matter. Not just the subject matters. I don't think jokes about minorities, women, LGBT people, the poor, etc should be off limits. But when the joke is made at a group's expense or when the premise is that a group is bad or a certain argument is wrong, I think that's political. It's advocating a specific world's view, and I don't think the comedian or the world view should be insulated from challenge simply because it was communicated on stage or laundered through a joke. Am I missing something here? It depends on what you mean by criticism. Like if somebody forces you to watch a comedy special and asks for your opinion you can talk about what you liked and didn't, but so much of the reviews and criticism seem to be attacking. Basically if your criticism amounts to anything like 'he shouldn't be allowed to say that" then yes you are very much wrong and missing something here. I don't think I've seen anyone say a comedian shouldn't be allowed to say something. I've seen people say they shouldn't have said something or that it's harmful that they said it. If someone is promoting harmful ideas on stage, people should say something. I don't support censoring comedians in any way, but social disapproval certainly shouldn't be unexpected. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:926657678] in Should com... [t:77970466]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>I've seen a lot of people recently make the argument that comedians are supposed to be edgy. They're supposed to mock the powerful and tell uncomfortable truths. They're supposed to mock taboos. All well and good. But I've also seen people make the argument that because of this, it's improper to criticize a comedian for their jokes. But it's not obvious at all to me that something being a joke means that it is invalid to question the joke or the comedian. It doesn't seem correct to me. I think the premise and target of a joke matter. Not just the subject matters. I don't think jokes about minorities, women, LGBT people, the poor, etc should be off limits. But when the joke is made at a group's expense or when the premise is that a group is bad or a certain argument is wrong, I think that's political. It's advocating a specific world's view, and I don't think the comedian or the world view should be insulated from challenge simply because it was communicated on stage or laundered through a joke. Am I missing something here?</quote> It depends on what you mean by criticism. Like if somebody forces you to watch a comedy special and asks for your opinion you can talk about what you liked and didn't, but so much of the reviews and criticism seem to be attacking. Basically if your criticism amounts to anything like 'he shouldn't be allowed to say that" then yes you are very much wrong and missing something here.</quote> I don't think I've seen anyone say a comedian shouldn't be allowed to say something. I've seen people say they shouldn't have said something or that it's harmful that they said it. If someone is promoting harmful ideas on stage, people should say something. I don't support censoring comedians in any way, but social disapproval certainly shouldn't be unexpected. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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