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FatalAccident 09/06/19 12:42:33 AM #30:	wwinterj25 posted... Sahuagin posted... I think the issue with this kind of thing is that "democracy" doesn't have a solution for what to do when a country is split over an issue. a vote resulting in 51.4% for, 48.1% against doesn't mean that the country is firmly decided on the issue, it means the opposite. It means the majority vote wins. As I said before the ones wanting a revote are the ones who didn't want out in the first place and now they make up any shit they can to get the votes in their favour. The truth is we were never going to leave it in the first place because the goverment doesn't want that. You can bet your ass if a revote is done and it was voted to stay in that would be the end of this shithsow. No more revotes. Mead posted... Theres also the issue that theres factual evidence that Russia meddled with that vote as well in 2016 I'm P sure Batman is a real person too. Although I expected a bigger conspiracy theory than that. Winter saying 52% vs 48% simply means majority wins is a very lazy way of looking at things. What it actually means is the country is divided, and the opinion of the 52 matters just as much as that of the 48. Whichever way you look at it, the result was a 50/50 split, you cant tell me that the opinion of the other 50% doesnt matter just cause its the way our voting system is set up. What it really shows is the system is broken, especially when theres evidence that there was misinformation spread throughout the campaign (on both sides by both campaigns) but more worryingly by foreign governments in favour of the leave side. And if youre refusing to acknowledge Russia meddled in the election then thats more lazy thinking. Brexit is far from straightforward. I personally wanted to remain cause I couldnt see any tangible benefits for leaving, all I could see was negatives. The 350m a week to the NHS or whatever figure turned out to be BS. All I see is tarriffs imposed on trade which means my fruit and veg is gonna cost me more, my holidays arent gonna be as straight forward cause Ill need to apply for and pay for visas, buying a BMW or an Audi will cost me more cause theyre gonna impose tariffs on goods as well if we leave on WTO terms, my university would lose out on research grants from the European Union meaning a lot of the projects we would have got involved in wont have funding, my brother in laws employer will potentially lose out on the ability to tender for public sector projects in the EU. Not to mention stopping free movement of labour means my employer no longer has the benefit of European construction workers meaning a slowdown in production. All negatives, dont see any positives that outweigh that. Brexit is a fucking mess. --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:927043322] in hey, Briti... [t:77985266]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>I think the issue with this kind of thing is that "democracy" doesn't have a solution for what to do when a country is split over an issue. a vote resulting in 51.4% for, 48.1% against doesn't mean that the country is firmly decided on the issue, it means the opposite.</quote> It means the majority vote wins. As I said before the ones wanting a revote are the ones who didn't want out in the first place and now they make up any shit they can to get the votes in their favour. The truth is we were never going to leave it in the first place because the goverment doesn't want that. You can bet your ass if a revote is done and it was voted to stay in that would be the end of this shithsow. No more revotes. Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Theres also the issue that theres factual evidence that Russia meddled with that vote as well in 2016</quote> I'm P sure Batman is a real person too. Although I expected a bigger conspiracy theory than that.</quote> Winter saying 52% vs 48% simply means majority wins is a very lazy way of looking at things. What it actually means is the country is divided, and the opinion of the 52 matters just as much as that of the 48. Whichever way you look at it, the result was a 50/50 split, you cant tell me that the opinion of the other 50% doesnt matter just cause its the way our voting system is set up. What it really shows is the system is broken, especially when theres evidence that there was misinformation spread throughout the campaign (on both sides by both campaigns) but more worryingly by foreign governments in favour of the leave side. And if youre refusing to acknowledge Russia meddled in the election then thats more lazy thinking. Brexit is far from straightforward. I personally wanted to remain cause I couldnt see any tangible benefits for leaving, all I could see was negatives. The 350m a week to the NHS or whatever figure turned out to be BS. All I see is tarriffs imposed on trade which means my fruit and veg is gonna cost me more, my holidays arent gonna be as straight forward cause Ill need to apply for and pay for visas, buying a BMW or an Audi will cost me more cause theyre gonna impose tariffs on goods as well if we leave on WTO terms, my university would lose out on research grants from the European Union meaning a lot of the projects we would have got involved in wont have funding, my brother in laws employer will potentially lose out on the ability to tender for public sector projects in the EU. Not to mention stopping free movement of labour means my employer no longer has the benefit of European construction workers meaning a slowdown in production. All negatives, dont see any positives that outweigh that. Brexit is a fucking mess. --- walks away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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