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Snake5555555555 09/10/19 11:21:19 PM #191:	Johnbobb posted... things you look for most in a good show/movie Oh this is a good one! 1. Great characters This is almost a no-brainer. Characters are the main tether to the fictional world, and cardboard cut-out characters are not ones I'm interested in spending my valuable time with. This is kind of why I don't watch a lot of sitcoms, where characters tend to remain static and stick to the status quo. I'm not saying characters have to be incredibly deep (nor does every character have to do something interesting every minute), but they should add a little spice and offer at least one compelling reason to keep watching. It's why a show like LOST can still be good even when it gets lost in grand concepts in can't fully handle. 2. Simple but unique concepts/Focused concepts Nothing will make my go rush to watch something more than when it's either a concept I've never seen done before, have rarely seen done at the least, or just fills in a special niche or sub-genre. Really, the simpler the concept the better too. A lot of my favorite TV and movies tend to take place in just one location for example, which is always something I love, because you can do so much with that, especially with character. And that brings me to... 3. Sense of location There's nothing I hate more than when tv/movie locations are ill-defined or lack continuity. I want to know these places like I visit them every day myself, and the best locations feel like characters themselves. Harlan in Justified is so good at this. There are even shows I like a lot that are bad at this, namely procedural shows like Veronica Mars or Monk. I just don't really feel like I'm part of those worlds as much and it can suck me out of it sometimes. 4. Tone, atmosphere and feeling So, we have a fun concept, great characters, and the setting feels lived in, now you gotta nail the tone. Whatever it is, it should feel consistent, natural, and set up quickly with room for subtle changes. A bonus to this also helps especially in TV with episodes that sometimes switch things up; a consistent tone will make a slight change feel instantly noticeable and can set you up for something different and exciting. My favorite examples of this are probably Barry's ronny/lily episode which adds a dash of horror to the proceedings, and The X-Files' Jose Chung's From Outer Space which adds parody and comedy to the series' generally serious take on alien phenomenon. These both work because they fit like a glove into the show's established formats but also offer different takes on what the show can be. 5. Casting I guess you could say this goes hand-in-hand with characters, but I feel like it's a little different personally. You need that right person for the job. A great actor could feel uncomfortable in a role. A typically bad actor might surprise you in a smaller role. I'll admit this is a bit more hard to define, it's just something I know when I see it. scarletspeed7 posted... How did I miss this topic? Fictional firemen I don't know, but just glad you found it now! 1. Frank Sullivan (Frequency) 2. Tommy Gavin (Rescue Me) 3. Guy Montag (Farenheit 451) 4. Michael Edwards (Eternal Darkness) 5. Chief Michael OHallorhan (The Towering Inferno) Underleveled posted... Fictional frogs 1. Kermit the Frog 2. Frog (Chrono Trigger) 3. Mr. Toad (DC) 4. Mr. Toad (The Wolf Among Us) 5. Throg (Marvel) NFUN posted... real frogs 1. Poison Dart Frogs 2. Fire-bellied toads 3. South American horned frogs 4. Ghost frogs 5. Glass frogs --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. https://i.imgtc.ws/2Q88rI4.gif - https://i.gifer.com/E07R.gif <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:927267820] in Post topic... [t:77978457]...</cite> <quote>Johnbobb posted... </cite> <quote>things you look for most in a good show/movie</quote> Oh this is a good one! 1. Great characters This is almost a no-brainer. Characters are the main tether to the fictional world, and cardboard cut-out characters are not ones I'm interested in spending my valuable time with. This is kind of why I don't watch a lot of sitcoms, where characters tend to remain static and stick to the status quo. I'm not saying characters have to be incredibly deep (nor does every character have to do something interesting every minute), but they should add a little spice and offer at least one compelling reason to keep watching. It's why a show like LOST can still be good even when it gets lost in grand concepts in can't fully handle. 2. Simple but unique concepts/Focused concepts Nothing will make my go rush to watch something more than when it's either a concept I've never seen done before, have rarely seen done at the least, or just fills in a special niche or sub-genre. Really, the simpler the concept the better too. A lot of my favorite TV and movies tend to take place in just one location for example, which is always something I love, because you can do so much with that, especially with character. And that brings me to... 3. Sense of location There's nothing I hate more than when tv/movie locations are ill-defined or lack continuity. I want to know these places like I visit them every day myself, and the best locations feel like characters themselves. Harlan in Justified is so good at this. There are even shows I like a lot that are bad at this, namely procedural shows like Veronica Mars or Monk. I just don't really feel like I'm part of those worlds as much and it can suck me out of it sometimes. 4. Tone, atmosphere and feeling So, we have a fun concept, great characters, and the setting feels lived in, now you gotta nail the tone. Whatever it is, it should feel consistent, natural, and set up quickly with room for subtle changes. A bonus to this also helps especially in TV with episodes that sometimes switch things up; a consistent tone will make a slight change feel instantly noticeable and can set you up for something different and exciting. My favorite examples of this are probably Barry's ronny/lily episode which adds a dash of horror to the proceedings, and The X-Files' Jose Chung's From Outer Space which adds parody and comedy to the series' generally serious take on alien phenomenon. These both work because they fit like a glove into the show's established formats but also offer different takes on what the show can be. 5. Casting I guess you could say this goes hand-in-hand with characters, but I feel like it's a little different personally. You need that right person for the job. A great actor could feel uncomfortable in a role. A typically bad actor might surprise you in a smaller role. I'll admit this is a bit more hard to define, it's just something I know when I see it. scarletspeed7 posted... </cite> <quote>How did I miss this topic? Fictional firemen</quote> I don't know, but just glad you found it now! 1. Frank Sullivan (Frequency) 2. Tommy Gavin (Rescue Me) 3. Guy Montag (Farenheit 451) 4. Michael Edwards (Eternal Darkness) 5. Chief Michael OHallorhan (The Towering Inferno) Underleveled posted... </cite> <quote>Fictional frogs</quote> 1. Kermit the Frog 2. Frog (Chrono Trigger) 3. Mr. Toad (DC) 4. Mr. Toad (The Wolf Among Us) 5. Throg (Marvel) NFUN posted... </cite> <quote>real frogs</quote> 1. Poison Dart Frogs 2. Fire-bellied toads 3. South American horned frogs 4. Ghost frogs 5. Glass frogs --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. https://i.imgtc.ws/2Q88rI4.gif - https://i.gifer.com/E07R.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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