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Peterass posted...

Guess we'll just ignore the transcript and the Ukrainian president who stated he wasn't pressured to do anything right?

I mean, what's Zelensky going to do? Toss Trump under the bus and hope the Republican who replaces him, along with the Republican running the senate, look favourably on the fact that he just dethroned their president and don't tear his badly-needed military aid to ribbons, while also implicitly admitting to his own voters that he's America's bitch? Fat fucking chance.

Also, the transcript is out and it showed pretty much exactly what everyone expected it would - even Republicans are signing off that this is a damning revelation.

Peterass posted...

3 years is a ridiculous amount of time to not accept the results of a fair election.

Dude, everyone's accepted the results of the election. People aren't saying, "Get rid of him, he rigged the election," they're saying, "Get rid of him, dude's corrupt as fuck." You can acknowledge that the election was fair (as fair as it can be despite Russian interference, anyways) and still want Trump gone. You can acknowledge he won the election and still, on Day 1, think he deserves to be impeached for breaching campaign finance laws. Or violating the prohibition against emoluments. Or due to the multiple allegations of sexual assault made against him.

The only people who still bring up 2016 are Republicans, who are the political equivalents of the 40 year old in his basement looking through his high school yearbook and sighing wistfully as he remembers that time he won the big game back in high school and wondering why no one else ever comments how amazing it was. Democrats have long since moved on - Trump has given them more than enough ammunition to call for his ouster that has nothing to do with 2016.

Gaawa_chan posted...

This is also not to say that the Biden family isn't also corrupt as Hell. I think I first learned about Hunter Biden's corruption back in... 2015?

Corrupt how?

The allegations against Hunter Biden are completely, transparently politically-motivated bullshit cooked up by Trump and his cronies. To wit:
1) Hunter was never a subject of investigation by Ukraine, and the current prosecutor has made clear that they have no evidence or allegations he ever participated in wrongdoing.
2) An investigation was launched into Burisma, the company that Hunter is on the board of directors of, but it involved transactions that occurred before Hunter joined the company in 2014. There are no allegations of wrongdoing that date from the time Hunter has been with the company.
3) That investigation went dormant due to lack of evidence and the unlikelihood of charges long before Joe Biden pressed for the ouster of Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin.
4) On that note, Shokin's ouster was pushed for not just by Biden and the US, but also by the EU, the IMF, and ordinary Ukrainian citizens, who were protesting and calling for his resignation. His removal had nothing to do with the investigations he was doing, but rather the ones he wasn't doing, as he was famously soft on corruption, refusing to prosecute anyone from the current or previous governments.

And if you're a Vice President hoping to cover up your son's corrupt activity, pushing for the removal of a prosecutor who is soft on corruption and who has stopped investigating your son's company in favour of one that will take a much harder line on white collar crime probably isn't a winning move.
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